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    1. samim‏ @samim 17 Dec 2017
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      What i'm missing in most discussions about tech+ethics, is a focus on fundamental virtues - beyond illusionary quick bug fixes.

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    2. samim‏ @samim 17 Dec 2017
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      The main "virtue" of contemporary technology (automation, augmentation, etc.) boils down to "efficiency". It leaves little room for virtues such as "simplicity, tranquility, modesty & compassion", which traditionally have served humanity very well - but are hard to compute.

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      michael_nielsen‏ @michael_nielsen 26 Dec 2017
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      Tell that to the absolutely enormous servant class who provided "automation" 100 years ago. I'm glad I didn't grow up to be a servant. So tech has the incredible virtue of enabling people to lead far more meaningful lives.

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        1. samim‏ @samim 27 Dec 2017
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          1.Not making an "anti-tech" argument, inspecting conceptual scaffolding. 2.My tweet attributes "efficiency" as main *virtue* of tech, to addresses your "more free time via tech" point. 3.Yet "more time" isn't automatically "more meaningful" > which is where other virtues matter.

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        2. Carlos E. Perez  🧢‏ @IntuitMachine 26 Dec 2017
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          100 years ago? I am pretty sure that there remain billions of people who are still in that servant class.

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        3. michael_nielsen‏ @michael_nielsen 26 Dec 2017
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          Orthogonal to my point. I had in mind statistics I've seen for England, where "servant" was the largest occupation at turn of 20th century, and now is tiny. So change "servant class" to "English servant class" in my tweet.

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