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    1. michael_nielsen‏ @michael_nielsen 7 Apr 2017
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      8/ Actually, that's not quite right. It's easy after the fact to say "let's have more Geoff Hintons" - he's seen as right!

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    2. michael_nielsen‏ @michael_nielsen 7 Apr 2017
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      9/ What's harder is to say "let's support many people pursuing ideas that don't look as promising as w'ever currently appears most promising

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    3. michael_nielsen‏ @michael_nielsen 7 Apr 2017
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      10/ Of course, there's usually a good reason the fashionable idea is fashionable. It usually _is_ right.

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    4. michael_nielsen‏ @michael_nielsen 7 Apr 2017
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      11/ But there's no reason to think our grant allocation mechanisms allocate money in the right way.

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    5. michael_nielsen‏ @michael_nielsen 7 Apr 2017
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      12/ In particular, suppose we have some key scientific problem, and the two leading approaches have a 20% and a 5% chance of working.

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    6. michael_nielsen‏ @michael_nielsen 7 Apr 2017
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      13/ With current mechanisms, the default is for approach 1 to end up with disproportionate funding.

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    7. michael_nielsen‏ @michael_nielsen 7 Apr 2017
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      14/ AFAICT, this is a consequence of accidental historical decisions about the mechanisms used to fund science.

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    8. michael_nielsen‏ @michael_nielsen 7 Apr 2017
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      14½/ (In an interview, Michael Seibel said that for YC to accept a startup, just 1 person in the room needs to be strongly in favour!...

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    9. michael_nielsen‏ @michael_nielsen 7 Apr 2017
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      14 3/4 ... Opposite of usual approach in science, & produces different risk profile.)

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    10. michael_nielsen‏ @michael_nielsen 7 Apr 2017
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      15/ Returning to main argument: Insofar as long-held suspension of skepticism helps overcome this, I'm in favour of it.

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      michael_nielsen‏ @michael_nielsen 7 Apr 2017
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      16/ Indeed, that long-held suspension of skepticism seems to be one of the main mechanisms we currently have for this.

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        2. michael_nielsen‏ @michael_nielsen 7 Apr 2017
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          17/ In that sense, I support Julia's phrasing in 4, with the proviso that I don't think we need "most" scientists to do this, just many more

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        3. michael_nielsen‏ @michael_nielsen 7 Apr 2017
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          18/ And I don't think lifelong is quite right, though many years-long, sure. And, for a few, life-long is fine.

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        4. michael_nielsen‏ @michael_nielsen 7 Apr 2017
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          19/ This is something I like about SV: I view the many ludicrous startups as a feature, not a bug, even if they're sometimes annoying.

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        5. michael_nielsen‏ @michael_nielsen 7 Apr 2017
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          20/ They indicate a system willing to support a lot of really weird ideas. Most fail.

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        6. michael_nielsen‏ @michael_nielsen 7 Apr 2017
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          21/ But a few turn into Wikipedia-size successes.

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        7. michael_nielsen‏ @michael_nielsen 7 Apr 2017
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          22/ A priori, of course, WP looked really silly - wild optimists like Kevin Kelly and Larry Page thought it would fail.

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        8. michael_nielsen‏ @michael_nielsen 7 Apr 2017
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          23/ Point, as with Hinton, isn't "fund Wikipedia", but rather "support many things that will look silly after the fact"...

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        9. michael_nielsen‏ @michael_nielsen 7 Apr 2017
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          24/ Finis.

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        10. michael_nielsen‏ @michael_nielsen 7 Apr 2017
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          Coda: Wikipedia wasn't exactly SV. Funded by Bomis, which was part of the US startup bubble though.

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