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    1. Will Wilkinson  🌐‏Verified account @willwilkinson 5 Apr 2017
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      13. It's understandable that these people should want a community in which they can feel better and maybe even superior about this.

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    2. Will Wilkinson  🌐‏Verified account @willwilkinson 5 Apr 2017
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      14. We all need a home. If that desire for safety/acceptance/status produces more usefully true thoughts, that's awesome.

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    3. Julia Galef‏Verified account @juliagalef 5 Apr 2017
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      I agree w/the importance of shaping motives! This is what my book (in progress) is about. But I disagree that other Rs don't care about that

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    4. Julia Galef‏Verified account @juliagalef 5 Apr 2017
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      Replying to @juliagalef @willwilkinson and

      e.g., see my TED talk on emotional engineering of rationality: https://www.ted.com/talks/julia_galef_why_you_think_you_re_right_even_if_you_re_wrong … (title is kinda misleading)

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    5. Julia Galef‏Verified account @juliagalef 5 Apr 2017
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      I also agree that for most ppl, accurate beliefs about global issues don't matter much relative to the cost to you personally.

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    6. Julia Galef‏Verified account @juliagalef 5 Apr 2017
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      But pursuing accurate beliefs makes sense if either (1) you're personally in a position to affect the world, or (2) you're altruistic.

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    7. Julia Galef‏Verified account @juliagalef 5 Apr 2017
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      Seeking true views on global issues is kinda like voting - maybe not worth cost to you personally, but we all lose if ppl think that way

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    8. Julia Galef‏Verified account @juliagalef 5 Apr 2017
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      So: Truth is worth cost to you if you can use it to better impact world. If not, it's still a noble act of societal cooperation, like voting

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    9. michael_nielsen‏ @michael_nielsen 5 Apr 2017
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      Replying to @juliagalef @willwilkinson and

      I think you're over-rating accuracy / truth as a primary goal.

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    10. Julia Galef‏Verified account @juliagalef 5 Apr 2017
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      Replying to @michael_nielsen @willwilkinson and

      I think it's hard to quantify importance, I'm just claiming it IS important (and underrated in general, I guess)

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      michael_nielsen‏ @michael_nielsen 5 Apr 2017
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      Replying to @juliagalef @willwilkinson and

      Sure. But I think there's a tension, too, between behaviours which maximize accuracy & which maximize creativity. Can't always have both.

      11:27 PM - 5 Apr 2017
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        2. Julia Galef‏Verified account @juliagalef 5 Apr 2017
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          I think there are big gains to accuracy that cost little creativity. Even just "Be interested in whether you're wrong" is a huge step up

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        3. michael_nielsen‏ @michael_nielsen 5 Apr 2017
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          Replying to @juliagalef @willwilkinson and

          As an individual I expect I'd mostly agree. But collectively I'd probably disagree. A lot of important truths come from v. irrational ppl.

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        1. Anne van Rossum ⌘‏ @annevanrossum 28 May 2017
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          Accuracy is in the eye of the beholder. This is about infinite dimensional spaces. Tough, already for mundane MCMC https://arxiv.org/pdf/1606.06351.pdf ….

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