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Searching for the numinous. Co-purveyor of https://quantum.country/ 

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    1. Bryan Caplan‏ @bryan_caplan 14 Mar 2017
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      .@Noahpinion Verifiable in principle. Imagine experiments that claim scribbles are "great art" and see how many agree.

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    2. Noah Smith  🐇‏Verified account @Noahpinion 14 Mar 2017
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      Sure. But try this experiment: Show the Mona Lisa and a photorealistic portrait by a modern artist to a random non-Western person...

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    3. Noah Smith  🐇‏Verified account @Noahpinion 14 Mar 2017
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      ...and ask "Which of these two is great art?". I bet people not conditioned to value 14th-century Italian paintings will say the modern one.

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    4. Noah Smith  🐇‏Verified account @Noahpinion 14 Mar 2017
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      I mean, are you going to tell me a non-indoctrinated person will say a Rembrandt is better than this painting?pic.twitter.com/AT0ccDkCyA

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    5. michael_nielsen‏ @michael_nielsen 14 Mar 2017
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      Yes. Like saying that a paper which uses Special Relativity is greater than Einstein's original papers (i.e., it's wrong).

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    6. michael_nielsen‏ @michael_nielsen 14 Mar 2017
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      What makes great painters great is (in part) that they introduce - discover isn't too strong a word - new techniques.

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    7. Noah Smith  🐇‏Verified account @Noahpinion 14 Mar 2017
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      Yes, I understand that history is very important to many art appreciators. That's why many think modern art is "great".

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    8. michael_nielsen‏ @michael_nielsen 14 Mar 2017
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      It's direct appreciation that Smith produced far more lasting insight than did his modern, superficially better counterparts

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    9. Noah Smith  🐇‏Verified account @Noahpinion 14 Mar 2017
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      I support ignoring the sources of economic ideas and focusing on the ideas themselves. Who cares how great Smith was?

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    10. Julia Galef‏Verified account @juliagalef 14 Mar 2017
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      's point seems totally compatible w/@Noahpinion's (that non-indoctrinated ppl's art taste would ignore historical factors)

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      michael_nielsen‏ @michael_nielsen 14 Mar 2017
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      who love Rembrandt because they understand what he did, not because they're told he's capital-G Great!

      10:42 AM - 14 Mar 2017
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        1. Noah Smith  🐇‏Verified account @Noahpinion 14 Mar 2017
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          What he did for technique, or what he did for culture? People love Malevich because they understand what he did for culture.

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        2. michael_nielsen‏ @michael_nielsen 14 Mar 2017
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          Nice question. For me, both. & also what an artist does to our ability to see or to feel, if that makes sense.

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        1. Julia Galef‏Verified account @juliagalef 14 Mar 2017
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          Oh i see - makes sense!

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