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    michael_nielsen‏ @michael_nielsen 18 Mar 2016
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    The answer to this question seems so obv "yes" to me, I can't imagine otherwise. And yet others strongly disagree.https://twitter.com/samim/status/710805282478284800 …

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    "Can a computer be creative?" talk by @annajordanous: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECVx8ENvgV8 …
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      2. Bret Victor‏ @worrydream 19 Mar 2016
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        @michael_nielsen Isn't a better question "SHOULD computers be creative"? ie: Why are humans creative? Is outsourcing that good for humanity?

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      3. michael_nielsen‏ @michael_nielsen 21 Mar 2016
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        @worrydream You may be right. It's not easily Twitterable, but @edelwax has me re-thinking what I believe about the role of choice 1/

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      2. Jeremy Kun‏ @jeremyjkun 18 Mar 2016
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        @michael_nielsen What would you propose as a definition?

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      3. michael_nielsen‏ @michael_nielsen 18 Mar 2016
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        @jeremyjkun I wouldn't get hung up on definitions for a question like this- defns come last. Roughly: ability to produce interesting novelty

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      2. David Deutsch‏ @DavidDeutschOxf 18 Mar 2016
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        .@michael_nielsen That is indeed strange. But "are computer programs creative today?". Obviously NO. And yet others strongly disagree…

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      3. Tom Chivers‏Verified account @TomChivers 18 Mar 2016
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        @DavidDeutschOxf @michael_nielsen is that obvious? It's not obvious to me that AlphaGo didn't play creatively. Depends on definition I guess

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      1. 1/(1 - 1/(1 - 1/(1 - Dan Piponi)))‏ @sigfpe 18 Mar 2016
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        @michael_nielsen Some people (IMHO incorrectly) feel "creative" has something to do with how something works rather than what the output is.

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      1. samim‏ @samim 18 Mar 2016
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        @michael_nielsen always depends on how you ask i suppose. I like "systems that allow us to be more creative, more of the time" a proven path

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      2. Brett Hall‏ @ToKTeacher 19 Mar 2016
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        @enorris @TomChivers Correct. That's what real creativity is: unrestricted open ended exploration. Highly narrow game machines aren't that.

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        @ToKTeacher @enorris iirc people said computers lacked the creativity for chess. Creativity is a spectrum, I'd say; they're (now) at one end

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