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    1. David Chapman‏ @Meaningness 17h17 hours ago
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      When quantum arrived, the logical positivists strove valiantly to incorporate it into their new rationalism. They didn’t get far, and the attempt was overwhelmed as new blows to rationalism kept coming. Gödel’s Incompleteness Theorem was the next most influential culturally.

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    2. David Chapman‏ @Meaningness 17h17 hours ago
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      Logical positivism finally disintegrated altogether in the 1960s. It failed not for one reason, but for dozens, each individually fatal. I know of no discussion enumerating them all. _The Eggplant_ covers more of them than any source I’ve found.https://meaningness.com/eggplant 

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    3. David Chapman‏ @Meaningness 17h17 hours ago
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      Logical positivism was the last serious attempt to rescue rationalism. All subsequent rationalisms have been unserious, in the sense that they don’t even try to address the well-known problems that wrecked the logical positivist program.

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    4. David Chapman‏ @Meaningness 17h17 hours ago
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      No coincidence the postmodern era began shortly after logical positivism collapsed. Rationalism was the foundational ideology of modernity. Without that, the essential chain of justification broke, and the ship of modernity was wrecked on the stormy seas of meaning.pic.twitter.com/F0m2yM2M9u

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    5. David Chapman‏ @Meaningness 17h17 hours ago
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      Science still works, some of the time, of course. Rationality is still better than irrationality. Why? Stubborn clinging to the wreck of rationalism renders asking that question impossible—much less answering it.

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    6. David Chapman‏ @Meaningness 16h16 hours ago
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      David Chapman Retweeted David Chapman

      We’re still floundering in the storm of postmodern irrationalism, announced by the NYT 100 years ago today. We can do better. We can rebuild the flotsam of a broken modernity into new, sea-worthy watercraft.https://twitter.com/Meaningness/status/1193573460103946240 …

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      🧵 100 years ago today, the New York Times announced the death of rationalism. pic.twitter.com/0z9rqicWfB
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    7. David Chapman‏ @Meaningness 16h16 hours ago
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      Follow-up to this thread. Several replies objected that relativity couldn’t have been a shock, because science consists of replacing incomplete approximate theories with successively better ones. >

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    8. David Chapman‏ @Meaningness 16h16 hours ago
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      This is not at all how science was understood in 1900. Science in those days found absolute, eternal, exact Truths. The “successively better theories” story, taught in high school now, was invented in the 20th century precisely to account for relativity and quantum.

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    9. Adam Strandberg‏ @The_Lagrangian 10h10 hours ago
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      per Feyerabend, the Popperian framework of theoretical replacement in response to critical experimental failure is not even right in the case of Einstein- examples of observations that “disproved relativity” that Einstein ignored on theoretical groundshttps://twitter.com/the_lagrangian/status/1123382684133285888?s=21 …

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      the virgin falsificationist vs the chad epistemological anarchist pic.twitter.com/b3i19xAnD5
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    10. David Chapman‏ @Meaningness 10h10 hours ago
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      Yup. Popper’s story is popular with scientists because it makes sense (is “rational”), but is falsified not by obscure anomalies but by essentially every moment of scientific work

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      michael_nielsen‏ @michael_nielsen 10h10 hours ago
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      Reminded of prescriptivism versus descriptivism in linguistics. (Don't know enough about Popper to have an opinion there, just speaking in general about the philosophy of science. "Should" versus "is".)

      6:24 PM - 10 Nov 2019
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        2. Adam Strandberg‏ @The_Lagrangian 9h9 hours ago
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          Feyerabend also discusses that and comes to the conclusion that if we have no idea what makes science work that the best approach is “epistemological anarchism” which I roughly agree with

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        3. Adam Strandberg‏ @The_Lagrangian 9h9 hours ago
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          though “epistemological localism” (a la Taleb) to reflect the scale-dependence is probably a better take

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