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    1. Conor White-Sullivan 🧢‏ @Conaw Sep 15
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      2) This is true largely because of the billions and billions of dollars worth of labor that has been poured into open source. When you want to write software today, the vast majority of what you need can be taken free from the commons. Languages, libraries, tooling

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    2. Conor White-Sullivan 🧢‏ @Conaw Sep 15
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      3) Commons based peer production -- is really only possible when you're dealing with goods that have basically no marginal cost. 1st one extremely expensive 2nd one nearly free He calls them non-rival goods. Only other person I've heard use that term is @jgreenhall re #gameb

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    3. Conor White-Sullivan 🧢‏ @Conaw Sep 15
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      There are all sorts of things which could be made non-rival and added to the commons which are currently locked into artificial scarcity because we haven't figured out how to reliably produce them otherwise Formulas for prescription drugs for one

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    4. Conor White-Sullivan 🧢‏ @Conaw Sep 15
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      This copy/left documentary goes into how, in Brazil, they chose to ignore US patents on drugs and brought cost down exponentially Not in itself enough to ensure we keep making new drugs, but shows why figuring out incentives is priority Excellent watchhttps://vimeo.com/8040182 

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    5. Conor White-Sullivan 🧢‏ @Conaw Sep 15
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      I've been pretty shocked over the past 12 years how few other tech entrepreneurs I've met who've heard of Benkler or where motivated by his frameworks. Assume it's because either A) A lot of his work focuses on law and copyright, spectrum governance etc B) he isn't as wide eyed

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    6. Conor White-Sullivan 🧢‏ @Conaw Sep 15
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      But the core ideas are highly motivating, and provide a different orientation to how to think about social change and building the future How do we create a context where more is being added to the commons? How do we convert rival to non-rival goods?

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    7. Conor White-Sullivan 🧢‏ @Conaw Sep 15
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      The first question deals with changing institutions and context of economic production, and can lead one in revolutionary directions Second, to me, is just about "Software Eating the World" and progress in hard tech You figure out 3D printing and nanotech and everything = info

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    8. Conor White-Sullivan 🧢‏ @Conaw Sep 15
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      Benkler talks about Wikipedia, Linux, and Apache Web Server as modern wonders of the world. Places where loosely coordinated hobbyists outcompeted firms and nation states. My question has been, what Wikipedias have we not built yet, for want of the right wiki?

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    9. Conor White-Sullivan 🧢‏ @Conaw Sep 15
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      Wikipedia handles things we already know, even there questionably well, as it grounds out on verification from traditional sensemaking institutions that are losing authority. If you want to contribute to advancing knowledge -- gatekept peer review is still the main commons

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    10. Conor White-Sullivan 🧢‏ @Conaw Sep 15
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      This is why, starting from Benkler, there is a straight line @michael_nielsen's "Reinventing Discovery" If we want abundance, we need to expand the commons, especially at the frontiers of human knowledge https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reinventing_Discovery …

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      michael_nielsen‏ @michael_nielsen Sep 15
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      On sources: I found I got little out of Benkler that wasn't available through direct contact with the open source community. I did learn a lot from Ostrom, Olson, and (to some extent) Axelrod & Schelling, though. (Fun thread!)

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        2. Conor White-Sullivan 🧢‏ @Conaw Sep 15
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          I think he was probably so influential on me because I hadn't been involved or interested in those communities at all before. When I first came across him I just saw Wikipedia as a cool website, open source as free stuff Benkler contextualized both as part of something bigger

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        3. Conor White-Sullivan 🧢‏ @Conaw Sep 15
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          Oh and to clarify, when I say "straight line", I meant from me caring about Wealth of Networks to wanting to build things that facilitate Networked Science -- not that he was a source for you

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