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    michael_nielsen‏ @michael_nielsen Sep 14
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    michael_nielsen Retweeted Alex Kontorovich

    This is a really fun thread. The 3x+1 problem is deceptively simple: the kind of thing anyone can understand & play with, but which the world's best mathematicians can't solve. A very brief explanation:https://twitter.com/AlexKontorovich/status/1172715174786228224 …

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    Alex Kontorovich @AlexKontorovich
    Unpopular opinion: The 3x+1 Conjecture might be False! Here's why I think this may be the case. (thread) My first paper, with Y. Sinai in 2002, https://arxiv.org/abs/math/0601622 … proves that 3x+1 paths are a geometric Brownian motion (in a precise asymptotic sense), with drift log 3/4 < 0
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    9:51 AM - 14 Sep 2019
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    • ଆଶିଷ ଲୋକନାଥ ପାଣିଗ୍ରାହୀ ~ आशीष लोकनाथ पाणिग्रही ADG Rob Lucas nfabredev Giovanni d'Ario Derek Wolters Joe Desbonnet Hannes Antonio Luis Sombra
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      2. michael_nielsen‏ @michael_nielsen Sep 14
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        Take a positive number. Let's give it a name: x. The rules of the game are this: (1) if x is even, replace it by x/2; and (2) if x is even, replace it by 3x+1. That's it, the complete rules of the game.

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      3. michael_nielsen‏ @michael_nielsen Sep 14
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        If you play this game starting with x = 5 (say), then here's what happens. 5 is odd, so it gets replaced by 3x+1 = 16. That's even, so gets replaced by 16/2 = 8. That's even, so gets replaced by 8/2 = 4. You've likely gotten the hang of this now, & can see the end: 4 -> 2 -> 1

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      4. michael_nielsen‏ @michael_nielsen Sep 14
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        Here's what the 3x+1 conjecture says: no matter what number you start with, eventually you'll end up at 1. It might take a very long time, but you'll get there.

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      5. michael_nielsen‏ @michael_nielsen Sep 14
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        It's easy to write a 5-line Python program to check this up to, say, x = a trillion (or much further). But proving it turns out to be something else entirely! Lots of mathematicians have worked on this, and failed to solve it.

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      6. michael_nielsen‏ @michael_nielsen Sep 14
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        It's a lovely problem, in part because you can goof around with it from first principles, & learn fun stuff. I did a lot of this when I was 18, 19 or so, & even today occasionally pull the problem out to relax. But people have also brought quite sophisticated mathematics...

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      7. michael_nielsen‏ @michael_nielsen Sep 14
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        ... to bear on the problem. Much has been learned, but the problem remains unsolved!

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      8. michael_nielsen‏ @michael_nielsen Sep 14
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        More detail in the Wikipedia article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collatz_conjecture … And, via @geomblog, the news that Terry Tao has recently made some very interesting progress:https://terrytao.wordpress.com/2019/09/10/almost-all-collatz-orbits-attain-almost-bounded-values/ …

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      9. michael_nielsen‏ @michael_nielsen Sep 14
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        Tao's paper: https://arxiv.org/abs/1909.03562 pic.twitter.com/CIvoM98t7i

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      10. michael_nielsen‏ @michael_nielsen Sep 14
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        michael_nielsen Retweeted michael_nielsen

        Sigh. @nathanju34 points out that in case (2) above I should have written "odd", not even, of course. My kingdom for an edit button.https://twitter.com/michael_nielsen/status/1172916056496558080 …

        michael_nielsen added,

        michael_nielsen @michael_nielsen
        Take a positive number. Let's give it a name: x. The rules of the game are this: (1) if x is even, replace it by x/2; and (2) if x is even, replace it by 3x+1. That's it, the complete rules of the game.
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      2. Suresh Venkatasubramanian‏ @geomblog Sep 14
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        Replying to @michael_nielsen

        I was hoping he'd have weighed in on Terry Tao's new manuscript.

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      3. michael_nielsen‏ @michael_nielsen Sep 14
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        Replying to @geomblog

        Oh, I didn't know! Very interesting.

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