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    michael_nielsen‏ @michael_nielsen Sep 13
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    Fascinating article on the physical demands of chess, and the physical training chess grandmasters do: https://www.espn.com/espn/story/_/id/27593253/why-grandmasters-magnus-carlsen-fabiano-caruana-lose-weight-playing-chess …pic.twitter.com/eXy1VW1FBV

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    • Deniz Yuret Peter Liou(無情公子) Samarth Sinha Kevin Bass, MS New Leibniz richard martin fighting gold 👁️ Jon Colverson Brandon Harrell
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      2. Anastasia Marchenkova‏ @amarchenkova Sep 13
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        I read this and was prepared to call BS (because you know how you get really hungry when you're working on hard problems? but your metabolism isn't increased) but this blood pressure/muscle contractions thing makes sense.

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      3. michael_nielsen‏ @michael_nielsen Sep 13
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        The information about weight loss in the article is pretty compelling, IMO.

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      2. madeofmistake - (official webcomic of unmatched‏ @madeofmistak3 Sep 13
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        So I just needed to be playing more chess this whole time?

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      3. michael_nielsen‏ @michael_nielsen Sep 13
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        Exactly!

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      2. Stephan Guyenet, PhD‏ @whsource Sep 18
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        Highly unlikely. If they were burning 6k calories/d, they would be breathing and sweating like a marathon runner. The 6k figure is not based on a direct measure of metabolic rate. Shown as early as 1930 that intense cognitive effort has little energy cost. https://www.pnas.org/content/pnas/16/6/438.full.pdf …pic.twitter.com/WcRGM4IxS2

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      3. Stephan Guyenet, PhD‏ @whsource Sep 18
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        This study directly measured energy expenditure (metabolic rate) in experienced chess players while playing chess. Although heart rate increased significantly, total energy expenditure did not (table 1). h/t @proftipperhttps://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s00421-008-0908-2 …

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      2. Matt Guttman‏ @RealtimeAI Sep 13
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        Pro video game players mostly have dedicated coaches who manage exercise and diet routines at this point. I guess there’s not as much money in chess but I find it surprising that the community as a whole hasn’t developed this knowledge more systematically by now.

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      3. madeofmistake - (official webcomic of unmatched‏ @madeofmistak3 Sep 13
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        video game trainer: dude, you have to drink less Mountain Dew. video game athlete: dude.

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      1. nick cannon‏ @inkymaze Sep 13
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        Believe it. Playing pro poker I would eat 4-5 meals a day. Often felt exhausted after 8+ hour sessions and remained at my high school weight easily into 30s.

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      1. David D‏ @DavidD_001 Sep 13
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        Interesting. Do the same principles apply to working in a demanding desk job? I always feel physically tired after a hard day's work!

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