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Searching for the numinous. Co-purveyor of https://quantum.country/ 

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    1. John Preskill‏ @preskill Sep 4
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      John Gillaspy @NSF: We use the textbook test. If your research is wildly successful, will it be in textbooks 20 years from now? #aqsw2019pic.twitter.com/Vj7xFhhfsz

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    2. michael_nielsen‏ @michael_nielsen Sep 4
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      Sounds like a terrible approach, TBH. AFAICT most of the main things described in my book with Ike were serendipitous discoveries, not the result of planned grants. Indeed, almost none came out of problem-oriented grants at all.

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    3. michael_nielsen‏ @michael_nielsen Sep 4
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      Replying to @michael_nielsen @preskill @NSF

      Deutsch & Feynman's papers. Shor '94. Teleportation. Quantum crypto. Reversible computing. Quantum noiseless coding. Even error-correction, AFAIK. AFAIK the most important papers in each case were unfunded, or funded by non-project based fellowship type funding.

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    4. michael_nielsen‏ @michael_nielsen Sep 4
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      Replying to @michael_nielsen @preskill @NSF

      In 2006 I wrote a list of my 10 favourite papers in quantum information. I then looked for patterns in them, just for fun. The two patterns that stood out: _none_ was funded by a project-based grant; and none of the principal authors except Feynman was a prof at a research U.

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      michael_nielsen‏ @michael_nielsen Sep 4
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      This utterly shocked me. At the time I was a prof at a research U with multiple project-based grants. Reflecting on this was a big part of why I left the field and academia. I think the approach taken by NSF and other agencies leads to minor, incremental work.

      12:10 PM - 4 Sep 2019
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        1. michael_nielsen‏ @michael_nielsen Sep 4
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          Replying to @michael_nielsen @preskill @NSF

          (There are exceptions, e.g., they deserve a world of credit for LIGO. But in general I think their practices need to be redesigned from scratch.)

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        2. rachel‏ @stubborncurias Sep 4
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          Can you think of any solutions on a short-term, individual level?

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        3. michael_nielsen‏ @michael_nielsen Sep 4
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          Replying to @stubborncurias @preskill @NSF

          Yes. I gave up tenure, left academia, worked on what I thought was important, and tried hard on an ad hoc basis to get funded while not compromising on working on what I think is important. Which I realize sounds self-righteous, but there have been costs to it.

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        1. Sushrut Thorat‏ @martisamuser Sep 4
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          Interesting. Did you write/talk about this in more detail somewhere?

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        2. Grumpy D. Kelson‏ @GrumpyKelson Sep 4
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          Replying to @michael_nielsen @preskill @NSF

          Grant agencies have to demonstrate to Congress that products are being generated for the dollars. That’s a strong incentive to fund programs that generate product—and the fastest way to generate product is to just generate more data.

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        3. Grumpy D. Kelson‏ @GrumpyKelson Sep 4
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          Imagine an agency looking favorably on a proposal that says “We’re going to produce nothing for 5-10 years except maybe some thinking that may or may not successfully lead to the solution of an outstanding problem.”

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        1. JoJaSciPo‏ @strangetruther Sep 20
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          Replying to @michael_nielsen @preskill @NSF

          Glad to hear you say that. Endorses my decision in 1992 to step out of institutions and work on my own. Couldn't have done what I've done within departmental constraints.

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