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    michael_nielsen‏ @michael_nielsen Aug 11
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    Easily the best essay I've read about the practice of science this year: @Meaningness's "Upgrade your cargo cult for the win":https://meaningness.com/metablog/upgrade-your-cargo-cult …

    4:38 AM - 11 Aug 2019
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      1. michael_nielsen‏ @michael_nielsen Aug 11
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        (Still ordering my thinking about it, & I don't want to offer any hot takes. I'm sure there are many things I will ultimately disagree with. But agreement or disagreement is not the high-order bit in responding to a piece like this!)

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      2. Bill Benzon‏ @bbenzon Aug 11
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        Replying to @michael_nielsen @Meaningness

        Not just science. Any intellectual pursuit. It happened to me while tracking down the form of Colerdige's "Kubla Khan". Short version:pic.twitter.com/wHhiuO70gJ

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      3. Bill Benzon‏ @bbenzon Aug 11
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        Longer version: https://www.academia.edu/9814276/Touchstones_Strange_Encounters_Strange_Poems_the_beginning_of_an_intellectual_life …

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      2. Stuart Buck‏ @stuartbuck1 Aug 15
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        Seems like there are some connections to be made with one of my favorite books of all time, Joseph Henrich, "The Secret of Our Success." https://www.amazon.com/Secret-Our-Success-Evolution-Domesticating/dp/0691166854 … I.e., learning by imitation is fundamental to human advancement, yet it has to be part of a functional community.

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      3. Stuart Buck‏ @stuartbuck1 Aug 15
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        Read the whole book, multiple times, but for a flavor see:https://darwinianbusiness.com/2016/02/29/cumulative-cultural-evolution-an-overview-of-joseph-henrichs-the-secret-of-our-success/ …

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      1. WiseAndShine‏ @ShapesOfEmpathy Aug 11
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        Replying to @michael_nielsen @Meaningness

        Yes, but professors gets tenure by playing by the rules and producing generally accepted output. What incentive do they have to go from specialized to general or epistemically open? We reward the rule followers and thus perpetuate rule following.

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      1. Louis Metzger, PhD‏ @LouisMetzger_ Aug 11
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        Agreed. Thanks for sharing this superb article.

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      1. Mark Stewart‏ @I_am_Mark_S Aug 11
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        Replying to @michael_nielsen @curryja @Meaningness

        I suppose this is critiquing the analogy rather than the real point of the post, but the cargo doesn't come to those islands anymore because there's no need to send it there. Likewise, it seems that science jumps forward in spurts driven by necessity.

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      1. Yan Liu  🌅 🔥 🏳️‍🌈‏ @NowhereLikeNow Aug 11
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        CC @LouisMetzger_

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      1. Empathy Guru, Complex System Scientist‏ @PezeshkiCharles Aug 11
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        This comes from a lack of empathy in the social structure, which then isolates the community in its own in-group, with an inability to reach outside to synergize understandings outside their knowing. Intellectual parthenogenesis. Entropy ensues.

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