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    michael_nielsen‏ @michael_nielsen Jul 19
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    I hope this is part of a trend exploring more and more in this direction. As @karpathy said, "gradient descent is a better programmer than you": https://arxiv.org/abs/1907.07587 pic.twitter.com/FhxtH9YUe2

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      1. michael_nielsen‏ @michael_nielsen Jul 19
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        Getting more gradient on gradient-based programming, so to speak.

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      2. Andrej Karpathy‏Verified account @karpathy Jul 19
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        We're moving up the stack a bit; Instead of writing explicit fully defined program we write a rough sketch "tube" of a program (tube parameterized by some \theta), and then if you have an evaluatable metric the best point in the tube gets selected via optimization.

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      3. Vivek Kumar‏ @vivek_kumar Jul 19
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        Similar to the shift from writing assembly to writing a higher-level language* - with an order of magnitude more impact. *For most applications Software developers no longer need to understand the hardware architecture.

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      2. David Pfau‏ @pfau Jul 20
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        Gradient descent is actually a pretty exceptionally bad programmer (see e.g. section 5 here: https://arxiv.org/abs/1608.04428 ), but somehow you never hear people going around saying shit like "a SAT solver is a better programmer than you are".

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      3. LittleBimble‏ @LittleBimble Jul 20
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        Replying to @pfau @michael_nielsen @karpathy

        I have said exactly that.

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      2. Mayank Prakash Jain‏ @mayankpjain Jul 19
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        @jeremyphoward , @michael_nielsen ...sirs, is this similar to swift programming language then, or very different

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      3. Viral B. Shah‏ @Viral_B_Shah Jul 30
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        Replying to @mayankpjain @michael_nielsen and

        #julialang is a different language and our goal is to make differentiable programming first class. The Swift TF team also has a similar goal - but these are different languages. Swift coming originally from Apple focussed on iOS, and #julialang from the numerical computing world.

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      2. Joey Velez-Ginorio‏ @joeyginorio Jul 20
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        Replying to @michael_nielsen @karpathy

        Also excited at this direction, but perhaps a stretch to reiterate that gradient descent is a better programmer? The limitations of the best work in differentiable programming are still substantial.

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      3. Joe Pelt‏ @JoePelt Jul 20
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        Replying to @joeyginorio @michael_nielsen @karpathy

        Agreed

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      1. Aakash Soni‏ @aakashsoni1209 Jul 20
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        Well said. Gradient descent is better programmer than you. So truepic.twitter.com/HnY1G7TCjW

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