Nothing intrinsically wrong with this. But we're at a time in history where the socially beneficial act isn't driving down operating costs while maintaining revenue. It's producing marvellous new tools, increasing access, etc. Current market structure isn't supporting this well
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Brokenness 3: The lack of growth models for the best new ideas. An example is the arXiv preprint server. It's one of humanity's great achievements of the past 30 years. Just in economic terms, over the long run it will generate trillions of dollars in social utility for humanity
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Replying to @michael_nielsen
Remember seeing this tweet a few months ago and it just popped back into my head. Pretty interested - how sure are you it’ll be trillions?
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Sure? It depends on the exact meaning of the statement - one could formalize it in different ways. But in what seem the most reasonable interpretation it seems extremely likely.
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Put the preprint server in 1800 and ask what effect it would have on the development of electromagnetism. It's quite plausible it speeds up the development of entire industries by many years. So just that one instance can plausibly be associated with ~ 10^9 dollars, IMO.
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And, of course, EM is far from the only example one could use. The most likely rebuttal seems like an argument that the preprint server actually slows things down. Which is sorta fun to argue for.
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Replying to @michael_nielsen @JacobTref
I think I might back off "extremely likely" and just go for "likely".
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In specifics, I can't imagine a reasonable calculation in which the role of the preprint server for this paper https://arxiv.org/abs/quant-ph/9707021 … isn't many billions of dollars. My best model would place it much higher.
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Replying to @michael_nielsen @JacobTref
*Correction above, of course I meant 10^12 dollars. I was being lazy, and didn't want to type out trillion.
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Replying to @michael_nielsen
Gosh, great specific example. Am I reading right that the publication delay there was 5-6 years? Why was that?
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In that case I doubt Kitaev would have published it anywhere except the arXiv, except for the intervention of others (who knew about him because of the arXiv): https://quantumfrontiers.com/2015/08/09/kitaev-moore-read-share-dirac-medal/ …pic.twitter.com/opGZ09AvxF
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Replying to @michael_nielsen @JacobTref
Another example is Perelman's proof, which seems likely to have gone unpublished if not for the arXiv. Goodness knows how to evaluate the value of that. The variance is certainly enormous!
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Replying to @michael_nielsen @JacobTref
An amusing prompt for a sci-fi story: imagine a future in which the proof of the geometrization conjecture is the foundation of the world economy. Very unlikely... but not completely farfetched.
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