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    1. michael_nielsen‏ @michael_nielsen May 28
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      michael_nielsen Retweeted Vince Knight

      Fascinating: @drvinceknight tried to reproduce the famous results of Axelrod's first Prisoner's Dilemma tournament, in which Tit-for-Tat reportedly won. He used reimplementations of the same strategies used in that tournament Tit-for-Tat ranks 8 /15 in the reimplementation(!)https://twitter.com/drvinceknight/status/1133408058179235846 …

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      Vince Knight @drvinceknight
      [Blog post]: *Not* reproducing Axelrod's first tournament: https://vknight.org/blog/posts/reproducing-axelrods-first-tournament/ … The latest release of @AxelrodPython has "as good as possible" implementations of all strategies from Axelrod's first tournament (based on the descriptions available). Cooperation still emerges.
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    2. michael_nielsen‏ @michael_nielsen May 28
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      Good discussion of what this may mean at the link. I really enjoyed Axelrod's book (https://www.amazon.com/Evolution-Cooperation-Revised-Robert-Axelrod-ebook/dp/B00AHFJ5VS/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=axelrod&qid=1559086154&s=gateway&sr=8-1 … ), and it has influenced my thinking quite a bit. It's well known that the best strategy is context-dependent; all the same, I must admit I'm a little bothered by this.

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    3. John Carlos Baez‏ @johncarlosbaez May 28
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      Replying to @michael_nielsen

      Has nobody bothered to redo this experiment before? That's hard to believe.

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    4. Christopher D. Long‏ @octonion May 28
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      Replying to @johncarlosbaez @michael_nielsen

      That'd be astonishing if true.

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      michael_nielsen‏ @michael_nielsen May 28
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      Replying to @octonion @johncarlosbaez

      Wouldn't surprise me in the slightest.

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        2. Refurio Anachro‏ @RAnachro May 28
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          Replying to @michael_nielsen @octonion @johncarlosbaez

          I bet someone did! These results were quite popular when people got access to personal computers. But it may be true no one bothered to publish about it. I'm also somewhat surprised you couldn't reproduce them.

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        3. Refurio Anachro‏ @RAnachro May 28
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          Replying to @RAnachro @michael_nielsen and

          Btw, tit for tat only comes out first when one integrates over all games. It loses against almost everybody, but always only very slightly.

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        1. Vince Knight‏ @drvinceknight May 29
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          Replying to @michael_nielsen @octonion @johncarlosbaez

          Yup, given the lack of precision in the paper this isn't surprising.

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