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    1. David Chapman‏ @Meaningness May 18
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      So how do scientists gain knowledge, if not by using the scientific method?pic.twitter.com/KaSVdLklhh

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    2. Fate Of Twist‏ @FateOfTwist_ May 18
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      The popularity of this concept of """the"" scientific method" is baffling. Basically no philosophers of science held that such a thing existed post-Kuhn, and that wasn't universally believed before then. Yet it is The Standard taught in many public schools.

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    3. David Chapman‏ @Meaningness May 18
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      Yup; and nearly all scientists claim to believe in it, although two minutes of consideration of their own typical working day would be adequate to disprove it. It’s a law of nature that everyone has to have a religion, and this is one of them.

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      michael_nielsen‏ @michael_nielsen May 19
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      Curious what your source is for "nearly all scientists claim to believe it"? I associate it with science fans, less so with good scientists (though there are _some_ very good scientists who use the phrase). Also, related:pic.twitter.com/JGflUiSIoa

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        2. David Chapman‏ @Meaningness May 19
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          “Nearly all” is just my anecdotal experience, which may be distorted by memory or atypical. Perhaps it’s also a generational thing? Indoctrination with 1950s philosophy of science may have been more prevalent when I was a student than it has been in recent decades.

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        3. Rob MacLachlan‏ @robamacl May 19
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          The scientific method should at least be given respect as an organizing myth, one still followed in the structure of a paper, especially when there is a definite experiment. It is also worthy to try to explain how science differs from other things, both to children and outsiders.

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        2. Sarah Constantin‏ @s_r_constantin May 19
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          I always thought that "the scientific method", like a lot of philosophical ideas, boils down to "y'know, thinking, doing, learning, the way you would if you actually gave a shit". It's sort of vacuous, but you need to give it a name to distinguish it from blind stupidity.

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        3. michael_nielsen‏ @michael_nielsen May 19
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          I'm quite happy to adopt "y'know, thinking, doing, learning, the way you would if you actually gave a shit" as a formal definition of "The Scientific Method" 😀

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        1. 𝕧𝕖𝕣𝕤 𝕝𝕒 𝕃𝕦𝕟𝕖‏ @Tashemewashere May 19
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          Didn't Paul Feyeraband write about this in his book Against Method? The scientific method as a dogma actually inhibits scientific progress. It's not real. It's like the chivalric code, predominantly for optics, not actually followed.

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        1. rachel‏ @stubborncurias May 19
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          Most scientists I know pay a nodding respect to the scientific method. Like a very eminent person who it would be shocking to ignore or insult, but you want to take their advice with a pinch of salt.

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