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    1. Mason  🏃🏻 ✂️‏ @webdevMason Apr 13
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      Mason  🏃🏻 ✂️ Retweeted Ayenem

      Universities actually cram very little information into students, and they do it painfully slowly. Bad pedagogy leaves only crude brute force study methods viable; profs have to limit the scope if they want to keep their students happy enough to not bash them on Rate My Professorhttps://twitter.com/TheAyenem/status/1116771886132813825 …

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      Ayenem @TheAyenem
      @ESYudkowsky @webdevMason Uni's teaching system (especially eng degrees) cram so much in a short period of time that the most efficient way of learning is suspension of disbelief. "Where does this come from? Why this?" "Nvm just apply the formula, get your grade yay you're great"
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    2. Mason  🏃🏻 ✂️‏ @webdevMason Apr 13
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      I'm not denying that some students study very hard, or that some programs require something like an order of magnitude more content to be retained in the short- to medium-term. Just that there is a hard limit on how much content can be crammed this way, and it's a low ceiling

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    3. Mason  🏃🏻 ✂️‏ @webdevMason Apr 13
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      If it feels like school is an all-consuming slog, that's the feeling of fighting your brain -- which builds models, and has to consume and discard massive volumes of extraneous information. "This isn't extraneous!" It doesn't believe you, and you don't really believe you, either

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    4. Mason  🏃🏻 ✂️‏ @webdevMason Apr 13
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      I should note that there are (probably broadly trainable) strategies for massively improved rote memorization, but the very hacky way this works makes me very skeptical that information stored this way can be accessed for much more than basic call-and-response

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    5. michael_nielsen‏ @michael_nielsen Apr 14
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      Replying to @Jonathan_Blow @webdevMason

      The first sentence is just plain wrong. But the implied question, when fixed up, is a good one: what are the opportunity costs for SR? I've experimented intensively with this question in mind. AFAICT, SR is most useful when learning a little outside your expertise.

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    6. michael_nielsen‏ @michael_nielsen Apr 14
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      Replying to @michael_nielsen @Jonathan_Blow @webdevMason

      Inside one's field or fields of expertise, SR is still occasionally useful, with little niggling things you keep having to look up. But for the most part I agree: one's natural interest and ways of encoding knowledge are powerful signals which do most of the trick.

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    7. Noah Tye‏ @noahlt Apr 14
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      Replying to @michael_nielsen @Jonathan_Blow @webdevMason

      perhaps one can use SR as an accelerator: if you can accurately perceive that you're looking up and using something so frequently that you will have them memorized in three months, maybe SR can cut the time down to one month.

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      michael_nielsen‏ @michael_nielsen Apr 14
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      Replying to @noahlt @Jonathan_Blow @webdevMason

      That's a helpful point of view, but it's still easy to make the mistake of using SRS to remember things that should have been no more than a low (or no) priority in the first place.

      11:21 AM - 14 Apr 2019
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