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    1. Kevin Kwok‏ @kevinakwok Mar 29
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      Replying to @michael_nielsen @patio11 @wesyang

      It's unclear to me that this is happening in non-tech industries. Now I think tech is increasingly rising in scale and importance so that may be enough. But I see no signs of law, finance, etcetc moving this direction

      3 replies 0 retweets 7 likes
    2. Chris Beiser‏ @ctbeiser Mar 29
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      Replying to @kevinakwok @michael_nielsen and

      The need for the signal has been slowly eroded; the shift will be slow, and then all at once.

      1 reply 0 retweets 4 likes
    3. Kevin Kwok‏ @kevinakwok Mar 29
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      Replying to @ctbeiser @michael_nielsen and

      Which other industries will be first to undergo the transition? And why has need for signal been eroded in the other industries?

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    4. Chris Beiser‏ @ctbeiser Mar 29
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      Replying to @kevinakwok @michael_nielsen and

      Media is already in-progress. Creative industries have always been less degree dependent, but they’re getting deeply eroded. I think tech-adjacency will be a big factor; literal bleed-over. I think that makes finance one of the earlier ones.

      4 replies 0 retweets 12 likes
    5. Patrick McKenzie‏ @patio11 Mar 29
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      Replying to @ctbeiser @kevinakwok and

      This is part of my thesis, too: if (without loss of generality) Goldman Sachs will only hire from prestige institutions and all similar employers share same restriction, then one must go to Harvard/etc. But if Goldman will hire from Google which will hire from the Internet...

      3 replies 1 retweet 14 likes
    6. Patrick McKenzie‏ @patio11 Mar 29
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      Replying to @patio11 @kevinakwok and

      And it doesn't take decades for that preference cascade to happen. How many Googlers need to go to Goldman before that is not merely a one-off target-of-opportunity but a path that can be repeatedly trodden and systematically laid out to people?

      5 replies 0 retweets 7 likes
    7. Kevin Kwok‏ @kevinakwok Mar 29
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      Replying to @patio11 @ctbeiser and

      I agree with this. Two questions it pushes 1. What is main constraint on this loop? Google churn rate? Google hiring? 2. Technically could go path elite schools did. Expand meritocratic channel to wash incumbent elitism. Which makes it nec but not sufficient for cascade

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    8. Patrick McKenzie‏ @patio11 Mar 29
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      Replying to @kevinakwok @ctbeiser and

      I think the main constraint is the ability of organizations to convince the 70th percentile student at Stanford or Harvard that they have an option which causes career value equivalent to a B? from Stanford or Harvard with 95%+ probability and, secondarily, convince parents.

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    9. michael_nielsen‏ @michael_nielsen Mar 29
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      Replying to @leopmartel @patio11 and

      Matches my anecdotal impression. Occupational licensing, for instance, has become vastly more important over the past few decades. And a number of professions use accreditation effectively as a way of controlling labor pricing (somewhat like a union).

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      michael_nielsen‏ @michael_nielsen Mar 29
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      Replying to @michael_nielsen @leopmartel and

      I am told - reliably, I think - that the Australian Medical Association rather carefully controls the number of degrees in different specialties, & limits them to a few "elite" schools. This has a number of effects; one is to keep medical salaries high.

      6:16 PM - 29 Mar 2019
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