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    1. Shimon Whiteson‏ @shimon8282 Mar 15
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      Good luck trying to do deep learning without convolutions, LSTMs, ReLUs, batch normalisation, etc. Good luck trying to solve Go without the prior knowledge that the problem is stationary, zero sum, and fully observable.

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    2. Shimon Whiteson‏ @shimon8282 Mar 15
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      So the history of AI is not the story of the failure to incorporate human knowledge. On the contrary, it is the story of the success of doing so, achieved through an entirely conventional research strategy: try many things and discard the 99% that fail.

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    3. Shimon Whiteson‏ @shimon8282 Mar 15
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      The 1% that remain are as crucial to the success of modern AI as the massive computational resources on which it also relies.

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    4. Shimon Whiteson‏ @shimon8282 Mar 15
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      Sutton says that the intrinsic complexity of the world means we shouldn’t build prior knowledge into our systems. But I conclude the exact opposite: that complexity leads to crippling intractability for the search and learning approaches on which Sutton proposes to rely.

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    5. Shimon Whiteson‏ @shimon8282 Mar 15
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      Only with the right prior knowledge, the right inductive biases, can we ever get a handle on that complexity.

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    6. Shimon Whiteson‏ @shimon8282 Mar 15
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      He says “Modern deep-learning neural networks use only the notions of convolution and certain kinds of invariances, and perform much better”. The use of the word ‘only’ highlights the arbitrariness of the claim.

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    7. Shimon Whiteson‏ @shimon8282 Mar 15
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      Deep learning wouldn’t succeed without those convolutions and invariances but these are deemed minimal and general enough to be acceptable.

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    8. Shimon Whiteson‏ @shimon8282 Mar 15
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      In this way, “The Bitter Lesson” avoids the main question, which is not WHETHER to incorporate human knowledge (because the answer is trivially yes) but WHAT that knowledge should be and WHEN and HOW to use it.

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    9. Shimon Whiteson‏ @shimon8282 Mar 15
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      Sutton says “We want AI agents that can discover like we can, not which contain what we have discovered.” Sure, but we are so good at discovering precisely because we are hardwired with the right inductive biases.

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    10. Shimon Whiteson‏ @shimon8282 Mar 15
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      The Sweet Lesson of the history of AI is that, while finding the right inductive biases is hard, doing so enables massive progress on otherwise intractable problems.

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      michael_nielsen‏ @michael_nielsen Mar 15
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      Great thread. You may enjoy my thread https://twitter.com/michael_nielsen/status/1106405855635791872 … making a related argument.

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      michael_nielsen @michael_nielsen
      Many people sharing this essay arguing that "computational scale beats clever new ideas". It takes for granted backprop, better activation functions, better learning methods, conv nets, better regularization techniques, etc etc. In other words, it seems to ignore the clever ideas https://twitter.com/gdb/status/1106329741785653248 …
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