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    1. Catherine Olsson‏ @catherineols Mar 14
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      Also, to keep a theme going: This is just where my current thinking is going, not a slam-dunk. If you disagree with this, or even just think an important aspect is neglected, I would *love* to see a counterposition.

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    2. Jess Whittlestone‏ @jesswhittles Mar 15
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      Some possible lines of counterargument: (1) why should we expect this pattern of compute beating human understanding to generalise to all kinds of future tasks/capabilities? Would be nice to see this spelled out. The examples given compelling, but are there any counterexamples?

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    3. Stefan Schubert‏ @StefanFSchubert Mar 15
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      Stefan Schubert Retweeted michael_nielsen

      Michael Nielsen disputed some of the examples:https://twitter.com/michael_nielsen/status/1106406616813821952 …

      Stefan Schubert added,

      michael_nielsen @michael_nielsen
      An example is this argument that Deep Blue was just massive search. It wasn't: it used more than 8,000 hand-engineered features that incorporated a huge amount of chess knowledge. Contrast Sutton's essay on the left with the paper about Deep Blue on the right: pic.twitter.com/xyFQJH7LL9
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    4. michael_nielsen‏ @michael_nielsen Mar 15
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      I'm not sure that's disputed, so much as some of the examples are just flat-out wrong. But I would say that 😀 The Deep Blue paper is full of stuff about the human chess knowledge they used, directly contradicting Sutton's essay. His other examples are only somewhat better

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    5. Stefan Schubert‏ @StefanFSchubert Mar 15
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      I just meant to say that you criticized some of the examples

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      michael_nielsen‏ @michael_nielsen Mar 15
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      Sure, got it!

      9:11 AM - 15 Mar 2019
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