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    michael_nielsen‏ @michael_nielsen Mar 11
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    Fascinating: the not-for-profit Bosch Foundation effectively owns the for-profit Bosch Company: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Bosch_Stiftung … I know there are others which have used similar models (eg Mozilla, now OpenAI), but it's fascinating to see a long baseline.pic.twitter.com/f8OLgWaqwD

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      2. michael_nielsen‏ @michael_nielsen Mar 11
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        Replying to @danwwang

        I wondered the same thing, but it looks as though they really do act in a philanthropic role (which Ikea basically doesn't).

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      2. Stefania‏ @Stefania_druga Mar 11
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        Replying to @michael_nielsen

        it's the same for LEGO

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      3. Uffe Poulsen‏ @uffe1974 Mar 11
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        Replying to @Stefania_druga @michael_nielsen

        The LEGO foundation only owns 25% and the founders family is still in control. However, many other major Danish companies are controlled by non-profit foundations, e.g. Novo Nordisk (insulin), Lundbeck (anti-depressives), Grundfos (pumps), and Carlsberg (beer).

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      1. Stefania‏ @Stefania_druga Mar 11
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        Germany is one of the few European countries with much more permissive legislation for foundations and how much profit they can carry over..

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      1. Anna Gát  ✨‏ @TheAnnaGat Mar 12
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        Ha, I didn't know! (I once wrote a screenplay that was nominated for an award by them and they invited us all over and seemed like v nice people.)

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      1. John Waterson  🌍‏ @jdwaterson Mar 12
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        The Guardian uses a similar model. A not-for-profit parent company (The Scott Trust) runs a bunch of profit-seeking companies, whose primary purpose is to ensure the editorial independence of The Guardian newspaper (which on its own, tends to run a loss).

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      1. how to dowtle.‏ @howtodowtle Mar 12
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        Same for Krupp afaik. Difference to "Open"AI is that these were for-profit first, then became owned by a non-profit. Similar outcome but not as deceptive about motives.

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      1. raymond shpeley‏ @raymondshpeley Mar 12
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        i came across this last year and was also impressed. the for-profit Bosch has tended to be very successful, in part by ensuring regular dividends accrue to the shareholders. their blue chip policies starkly contrast with companies hell-bent on elevating their stock prices.

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