BTW, if your first response to the polarization in the US is "damn fool Republicans" then you're part of the reason for the polarization. A more interesting response than beating on the outgroup is to try to understand deeply _why_ this is true in the US, and how it could change
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And, yes, I'm aware many will respond "Oh, it's Fox News" or some variation on "Republicans are anti-science fools". But that's a shallow response, just another way of beating on the outgroup without really understanding.
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Incidentally, I've tweeted both these things before. I was somewhat puzzled as to why they got very low engagement, since they're more important (& certain) than many climate tweets that spread rapidly.
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One possible theory: many (not all) people who claim to care about climate are more interested in using it as an issue to beat their political opponents with. These facts don't fit that purpose well, even though they're important to understand if you genuinely care about climate
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It certainly feels as though climate denial is correlated with one's politics in the UK. For example,https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2016/jun/16/brexit-voters-almost-twice-as-likely-to-disbelieve-in-manmade-climate-change …
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Replying to @wtgowers @michael_nielsen
But maybe it's just that the left-right axis is not the best one to use to spot the correlation.
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Interesting. This suggests that it's a small effect, though - not obviously inconsistent with the paper I (indirectly) linked above, which showed a small effect.pic.twitter.com/mViiXgT2cn
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Put another way, when the numbers are 10% and 18% the Guardian headline, while literally true, is quite misleading. It the numbers were 1% and 2% it would still be true... and yet would suggest almost no difference between the two groups in terms of their beliefs.
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Another way of putting it is that about 14% of the country are deniers, and about two thirds of them are leave voters, compared with about 50% of the country as a whole. It's also notable that there are a lot of climate deniers in UKIP and the right of the Tory party.
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To take a more extreme example, in the 1970s and 1980s communists found a home in the far left of the Australian Labor Party. But I wouldn't have described the ALP as especially communist. OTOH, the current case seems more intermediate & complicated.
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A fair summary might be: in the UK there is broad bipartisan agreement about the reality of human-caused climate change. But among the small number of skeptics, the great majority are conservatives. The latter fact is interesting, and not visible in the graph I tweeted.
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