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    1. michael_nielsen‏ @michael_nielsen Mar 10
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      Two facts about climate I wish were much better known: In most countries apart from US beliefs about climate are not strongly associated to politics: https://twitter.com/NGruen1/status/1023018199984435200 … We're near peak emissions: https://twitter.com/michael_nielsen/status/674738150367993856 … (Graph has ticked up slightly, still near flat.)

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      michael_nielsen @michael_nielsen
      Paper in Nature Climate Change (tentatively) suggests global CO2 emissions may be declining http://www.nature.com/articles/nclimate2892.epdf?referrer_access_token=s1awyyC-oO6etR336Cj_HNRgN0jAjWel9jnR3ZoTv0PZ7Wa610RO0dCDFlIIHZ74qcAiRyRLeTjy1w-5IRtPPSUdHbny_NP43wRzYrSEjYc3Yy3cCrW_6kuwy-8K-e8OQuzShps06O73r4wsofA5E-O-EaT7dZSiSRMkiGRrojMwUaRyzOpRy3ekJ1-825iQFi1DD4m81eHFBKN23yCWMP5KNb0xzqXoDieEXqJ8IqROptfJ-r2JDpgA5iSBDIISsx6p41e_yqf5lm2_P31ZPQ%3D%3D&tracking_referrer=www.nytimes.com … pic.twitter.com/RPCzAqPVaM
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    2. michael_nielsen‏ @michael_nielsen Mar 10
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      BTW, if your first response to the polarization in the US is "damn fool Republicans" then you're part of the reason for the polarization. A more interesting response than beating on the outgroup is to try to understand deeply _why_ this is true in the US, and how it could change

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    3. michael_nielsen‏ @michael_nielsen Mar 10
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      And, yes, I'm aware many will respond "Oh, it's Fox News" or some variation on "Republicans are anti-science fools". But that's a shallow response, just another way of beating on the outgroup without really understanding.

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    4. michael_nielsen‏ @michael_nielsen Mar 10
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      Incidentally, I've tweeted both these things before. I was somewhat puzzled as to why they got very low engagement, since they're more important (& certain) than many climate tweets that spread rapidly.

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    5. michael_nielsen‏ @michael_nielsen Mar 10
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      One possible theory: many (not all) people who claim to care about climate are more interested in using it as an issue to beat their political opponents with. These facts don't fit that purpose well, even though they're important to understand if you genuinely care about climate

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    6. Timothy Gowers‏ @wtgowers Mar 10
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      It certainly feels as though climate denial is correlated with one's politics in the UK. For example,https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2016/jun/16/brexit-voters-almost-twice-as-likely-to-disbelieve-in-manmade-climate-change …

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    7. Timothy Gowers‏ @wtgowers Mar 10
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      But maybe it's just that the left-right axis is not the best one to use to spot the correlation.

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      michael_nielsen‏ @michael_nielsen Mar 10
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      Interesting. This suggests that it's a small effect, though - not obviously inconsistent with the paper I (indirectly) linked above, which showed a small effect.pic.twitter.com/mViiXgT2cn

      12:23 PM - 10 Mar 2019
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        2. michael_nielsen‏ @michael_nielsen Mar 10
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          Put another way, when the numbers are 10% and 18% the Guardian headline, while literally true, is quite misleading. It the numbers were 1% and 2% it would still be true... and yet would suggest almost no difference between the two groups in terms of their beliefs.

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        3. Timothy Gowers‏ @wtgowers Mar 10
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          Another way of putting it is that about 14% of the country are deniers, and about two thirds of them are leave voters, compared with about 50% of the country as a whole. It's also notable that there are a lot of climate deniers in UKIP and the right of the Tory party.

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