Rankings self-reinforce. Employers more likely to hire students from top-ranked universities, so best students go to top-ranked places, making employers even likelier to hire from there and so on. Same effect in terms faculty recruitment, funding, grad student recruitment, etc.
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Replying to @alexolshevsky1 @KoreyCeyser
If that's the only axis for competition, sure. But this effect didn't save DEC from being beaten by Google, Myspace from Facebook, etc.
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Replying to @michael_nielsen @KoreyCeyser
I don't know much about DEC, but I was an active user of Myspace/Friendster at the time Facebook began, and both were unusable (page loading times >40 secs). Perhaps the moral is that large self-reinforcing effects persist in the face of large screwups...
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Replying to @alexolshevsky1 @KoreyCeyser
Blockbuster / Netflix. Toyota / name your favourite defunct car company. Etc x 1,000. The point is flux is common among industries where there's actual competition. The chart suggests research universities aren't really competing.
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Replying to @michael_nielsen @KoreyCeyser
I'm a fan of Bryan Caplan's argument that education is primarily about signalling. By contrast, choosing between Blockbuster/Netflix is about watching a movie. So if school X does figure out a better way to teach than Harvard, it won't draw many students away from Harvard...
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Replying to @alexolshevsky1 @KoreyCeyser
That was my original point: real competition seems to have largely been moved out of the system. (Education/Caplan is not relevant: most of the Shanghai ranking is based on research. Regard it as a ranking of research institutions.)
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Replying to @michael_nielsen @KoreyCeyser
Schools do compete, though -- I've been to about 100 different meetings across 5 institutions where people discuss how to improve ranking. New programs are started all the time, new majors, old programs closed down, etc. Caplan's thesis is relevant because it explains why...
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Replying to @alexolshevsky1 @KoreyCeyser
Let me be explicit: the Shanghai rankings aren't principally about education. They're about research. I am talking about research, and have been since the initial tweet. Caplan's thesis is interesting, but largely irrelevant to the current subject.
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You are talking about a different subject. Also interesting, if true, which is that a type of Matthew effect dominates in rankings of _educational_ institutions by supposed educational quality. But not what this thread is about.
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Replying to @michael_nielsen @alexolshevsky1
Seems like that could affect the amount of research grants that those institutions recieve. Possible bias regardless of the actual innovation of the research. Feel like Ive seen a
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Yes, they're entangled. But people don't win Nobel Prizes principally because of the brand value of being at the top of the US News rankings. And it's things like Nobel Prizes (and related measures) which determine the Shanghai rankings.
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