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    1. michael_nielsen‏ @michael_nielsen Mar 2
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      Many other not-for-profit society publishers aren't much better. Any serious argument that "for-profits are bad" needs to engage with this fact.

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    2. michael_nielsen‏ @michael_nielsen Mar 2
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      So, what to do? A lot of progress so far has come from things like the Bermuda Principles, whereby the NIH and Wellcome Trust essentially forced biologists to share human genome data. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bermuda_Principles …

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    3. michael_nielsen‏ @michael_nielsen Mar 2
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      Or the NIH public access policy, which requires NIH-funded research papers to be shared after an embargo period: https://publicaccess.nih.gov/ 

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    4. michael_nielsen‏ @michael_nielsen Mar 2
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      I'm a huge fan of these and similar actions, and of people and organizations like @hjoseph, @petersuber, @SPARC_NA and the many, many others who helped them become a reality. These are some of the most important accomplishments of humanity in the past decades.

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    5. michael_nielsen‏ @michael_nielsen Mar 2
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      At the same time, over the long run we want to avoid running things through centralized control. Command-and-control economies have a terrible historical record, and usually end up inhibiting innovation.

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    6. michael_nielsen‏ @michael_nielsen Mar 2
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      That's my view of the problems. What of the solutions? How to create a healthy competitive marketplace in scientific publishing?

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    7. michael_nielsen‏ @michael_nielsen Mar 2
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      There's not going to be a silver bullet. It's going to require hundreds of changes. One crucial change is getting existing funders to take software tools seriously. Budgets for tools, for programmers, for long-term maintenance, & VC / grants for new organizations to develop tools

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    8. michael_nielsen‏ @michael_nielsen Mar 2
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      And payment for services needs to align incentives: the people benefiting from the services should be paying for them, to set up the virtuous feedback loop: genuinely better service => more revenue.

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    9. michael_nielsen‏ @michael_nielsen Mar 2
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      This is a tough problem for open * solutions (open access, data, code, collaboration). It still hasn't been solved in the world of open source software. Though companies like Kickstarter and Patreon and ideas like dominant assurance contracts are making progress in this space.

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    10. michael_nielsen‏ @michael_nielsen Mar 2
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      Still, I'm optimistic we can solve these problems. Danny Hillis has observed that "there are problems that are impossible if you think about them in two-year terms - which everyone does - but they're easy if you think in fifty-year terms." I think this is a problem of this type!

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      michael_nielsen‏ @michael_nielsen Mar 3
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      Addenda: @aexbrown points out my numbers for the American Chemical Society are off. Their publishing (& CAS) revenue is more like a half billion / yr. Doesn't change the basic argument, but good to get the facts right. Thanks @aexbrown!

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        1. michael_nielsen‏ @michael_nielsen Mar 3
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          Addendum: This tweet's sole purpose is to make the previous tweet grammatically correct.

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        2. Timothy Gowers‏ @wtgowers Mar 3
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          When do we get the next addendum? 🙂

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        3. michael_nielsen‏ @michael_nielsen Mar 3
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          Not for a while. Though developing this argument properly & carrying it to its conclusions probably wouldn't be a bad idea!

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        1. 司徒司徒司徒‏ @szetosetositu Mar 3
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          I worry about tragedy of the commons. It hit newspapers bad...maybe Wikipedia and arxiv next?

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