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    1. Hannu Töyrylä‏ @htoyryla 13 Dec 2018
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      In a way, that is what happens, too, Or with a transformative network like CycleGAN, train with too mixed a dataset, you might get only recolorisation. In my experience. Like in every art, one needs to work hard to do something special. Everyone has her own way.

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    2. Hannu Töyrylä‏ @htoyryla 13 Dec 2018
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      In other words, there is lots of technology out there. You can choose what you need and build your own work process. For training, when needed, one can select what best works for you, including using your own photos, paintings, drawings, doodles, generated or processed images.

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    3. Mauro Martino‏ @martino_design 13 Dec 2018
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      Models/architectures are equally important as the dataset used for training. Many of the most innovative works in the AIArt field are based on architectures and data built by artists/scientists.

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    4. Mauro Martino‏ @martino_design 13 Dec 2018
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      Creativity in ai-art is also about imagining and building a new collection of examples for training the AI model.

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    5. John Cormier‏ @PhotonicPunk 13 Dec 2018
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      Not sure if this has already been done but it might be interesting to recursively train the AI with AI art. Would you end up with something truly original, or just stuff no one would consider art?

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    6. Mario Klingemann‏Verified account @quasimondo 13 Dec 2018
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      There is nothing truly original. Whether you pipe information through a human brain or a neural network, the output is always a transformation of the input based on what the model has learned. An yes, some of us are recursively training models on the output of other models.

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    7. Mauro Martino‏ @martino_design 15 Dec 2018
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      Replying to @quasimondo @PhotonicPunk and

      To think is to put together random bits of private experience in an orderly fashion. We can learn to do it better.

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    8. MEMO M̸e̵h̶m̸e̸t̶ ̴S̴e̷l̴i̷m̸ ̵A̸k̶t̴e̷n̶‏Verified account @memotv 15 Dec 2018
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      Replying to @martino_design @quasimondo and

      There is one thing of which I'm certain: the expression "nothing is original", i find really tired and unoriginal (and uninspiring!)

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    9. Mario Klingemann‏Verified account @quasimondo 15 Dec 2018
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      Replying to @memotv @martino_design and

      The secret is that if you repeat the mantra "nothing is original" often enough the self-reinforcing nature of this expression will open up a gateway to #Hyperoriginality

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    10. michael_nielsen‏ @michael_nielsen 15 Dec 2018
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      Replying to @quasimondo @memotv and

      I think of the "nothing is original" phrase as similar to the P vs NP problem: after the fact, it's often easy to see why an idea worked. But before the fact it's not. People who don't create regularly have little experience with this, & confuse it with lack of originality.

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      michael_nielsen‏ @michael_nielsen 15 Dec 2018
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      Replying to @michael_nielsen @quasimondo and

      Eg I've often heard people say this about the design of Bitcoin: "it was just a combination of existing ideas". Well, yes, much like "War and Peace" was just a combination of existing letters of the alphabet...

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        2. MEMO M̸e̵h̶m̸e̸t̶ ̴S̴e̷l̴i̷m̸ ̵A̸k̶t̴e̷n̶‏Verified account @memotv 15 Dec 2018
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          Replying to @michael_nielsen @quasimondo and

          Hah, i like the war & peace analogy. I shall use it if I may? (I have an allergic reaction to the phrase because it implies an absolute binary classification of 'original vs not', clumping everything together, as opposed to a multidimensional continuum of subjective experience)

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        3. michael_nielsen‏ @michael_nielsen 15 Dec 2018
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          Replying to @memotv @quasimondo and

          Sure. It's a remix (appropriately) of a line that I think is due to Douglas Adams: a book is just 80,000 words arranged in a cunning order. I think about that a lot.

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          Em ... 🤔

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