But we could change each (or every!) one of these in radical ways.
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Of course, these are just a few ideas. I believe humanity has barely begun to explore the space of possible approaches to doing science. What are the high-order bits in how we do science? What new approaches can we take to discovery?
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We’re both very, very optimistic that we can do vastly better than today. But it needs new ideas, lots of experiments, and lots of imagination!
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Alright. I mostly agree with the ideas for change (as examples) but disagree with the premise. Problem in my view isn't lack of a growth model, the growth is intrinsic. The problem is a lack of institutions to handle coordination -> silos -> lack of translation of new concepts
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Where I think we might agree is the need for meta-institutions that help to adapt/evolve the existing institutions. Those are missing, and we scaled up too far/fast in mid to late C20 for the existing institutions to adapt in time leading to stasis and brittleness
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Given how amazing the discoveries in the early half of the 20th century were I would say the data you and
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The money/effort spent looks bad plotted by itself but as a percentage of gdp is pretty flat since ww2. Science may or may not be getting harder but there is still a lot of obviously important and poorly understood phenomena and the return is still quite positive.
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Some great insight. One thing that seems obvious to me is that the majority doing science are all white and male. New ideas need new perspectives; i.e. people from more diverse backgrounds. More investment is needed to attract people into science from all demographics.
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Increased interdisciplinary work is also key (which is what we are seeing more and more of). Creativity too.
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Great work; following up about a year later to this original Twitter thread how do you see this work and possible ways to address it?
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