Popular environmentalism (e.g. banning plastic straws) is like the way inexperienced programmers optimize code at random, without profiling first.
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Replying to @paulg
The ban on plastic straws in the EU was motivated by the fact that it's one of the most common forms of litter. 300.000 pieces of litter were studied to come to this conclusion. Furthermore, it's not a real ban. It just requires the producers to pay for the cleanup costs.
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Replying to @paulg
Completely irrelevant. I take it you are more educated on the subject than the researchers who determined this would be an effective measure? Your entire argument relied on a falsehood, that the ban on straws was to reduce plastic waste.
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Just to be clear, if banning straws was actually optimal solution, everyone would go after it. That's the way humans work. Other than that, looks good to say it in certain circles, no thing more.
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Replying to @JorgeEscobar @paulg
Go ahead then. How was the research conducted on behalf of the commission wrong?
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Can you link to the original study? I've spent 10 mins looking, and can't find it. Thanks.
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Replying to @michael_nielsen @jbinero and
Okay, so I found what I presume is the press release, which is very good as press releases go (but also a long way short of a paper): http://europa.eu/rapid/press-release_MEMO-18-3909_en.htm … It doesn't state how much straws contribute, unfortunately, though they're on the (long) list of top contributorspic.twitter.com/nNH7Dz8ilN
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Replying to @michael_nielsen @jbinero and
Here's what the press release identifies as the worst contributors, together w strategies for each. Not as good as really effective profiling for program optimization, but much better than scattershot "let's fix whatever we can". It'd be nice to better understand methodologypic.twitter.com/3PRhQiIhuG
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Put another way: straw bans _may_ sometimes be part of a reasonably well thought out overall approach. That fact is not visible in common ways of marketing such bans (which are moronic), but may be true at the policy source. This is surprisingly common in government.
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Good research and people are still using plastic straws. So good luck with that I guess.
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