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    1. michael_nielsen‏ @michael_nielsen 28 Oct 2018
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      A fascinating criterion, from David Hilbert: "One can measure the importance of a scientific work by the number of earlier publications rendered superfluous by it." Reminds me of @DavidDeutschOxf:pic.twitter.com/klQ75MKq0L

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    2. Arfon Smith‏Verified account @arfon 28 Oct 2018
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      Replying to @michael_nielsen @DavidDeutschOxf

      Had similar thoughts a while ago when thinking about ‘rich’ citations, i.e. whether a citing work supported or refuted a claim of the cited work. With just this information it would be possible to build the graph right?

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      michael_nielsen‏ @michael_nielsen 28 Oct 2018
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      Interesting idea. For things like GR it's not clear to me it supports or refutes Newtonian gravity; more like it supersedes & deepens Newtonian gravity. Maybe need different types of citation? Interesting to think of citation tags as crowd-generated, not centrally mandated.

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        2. David Deutsch‏ @DavidDeutschOxf 28 Oct 2018
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          Did Einstein even cite Newton? I haven't read his 1915 paper but I doubt citation would be necessary. It does contradict Newton's theory though, e,g, by denying that there is a force of gravity. OTOH superseded theories aren't necessarily "superfluous".

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        3. David Deutsch‏ @DavidDeutschOxf 28 Oct 2018
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          Einstein wrote in 1919: "No one must think that Newton’s great creation can be overthrown in any real sense by this or by any other theory."https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/einstein-on-his-theory-g25vk2vp2qj …

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        2. Arfon Smith‏Verified account @arfon 28 Oct 2018
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          Replying to @michael_nielsen @DavidDeutschOxf

          For sure. I wonder if it would be possible to crowdsource a subset of the arXiv to try out some different approaches.

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        3. Dario Taraborelli‏ @ReaderMeter 28 Oct 2018
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          I assume you’re familiar with CiTO, the citation typing ontology by @dshotton and @sparontologies. It’s been used for a number of similar experiments, it would be great to see it adopted and extended as needed. https://sparontologies.github.io/cito/current/cito.html …

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