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Searching for the numinous. Co-purveyor of https://quantum.country/ 

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    1. Paul (99%)‏ @PaulSkallas 12 Jul 2018
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      seems like a team from Uber won this competition over teams from universities. But I dont know... https://twitter.com/spyrosmakrid/status/1012952827348570112 …

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    2. Simon DeDeo‏ @SimonDeDeo 12 Jul 2018
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      If a scientific problem can be cast as a competition, it's not science. Science is not prediction. Science is explanation, understanding, meaning. These are not empty words. Getting ten percentage points improvement in a forecasting exercise is not science.

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    3. David R. Pugh‏ @TheSandyCoder 13 Jul 2018
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      Do you really have to be doing causal inference to be “doing science”? Surely much scientific progress can be made by building models that predict phenomena 10% better than current state of the art?

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    4. Simon DeDeo‏ @SimonDeDeo 13 Jul 2018
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      I didn’t say science was causal inference—I said it was explanation, understanding, meaning.

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    5. Simon DeDeo‏ @SimonDeDeo 13 Jul 2018
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      A good bit of science can often (not always!) aid prediction. The converse is rarely true.

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    6. Simon DeDeo‏ @SimonDeDeo 13 Jul 2018
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      Not to be a dick about this but it’s a common misunderstanding.

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    7. David R. Pugh‏ @TheSandyCoder 13 Jul 2018
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      Here is a recent Kaggle competition that caught my eye...surely participating in competitions like this would qualify as science? https://www.kaggle.com/c/trackml-particle-identification …

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    8. Simon DeDeo‏ @SimonDeDeo 13 Jul 2018
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      So I want to be very careful here. There are many ways to participate in science.

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    9. Simon DeDeo‏ @SimonDeDeo 13 Jul 2018
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      You could learn a lot from doing this—how to write code, get experience thinking clearly, logically, creatively. Sitzfleisch.

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    10. Simon DeDeo‏ @SimonDeDeo 13 Jul 2018
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      But this is where @michael_nielsen and I might part company: I don’t think working on GalaxyZoo is doing science.

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      michael_nielsen‏ @michael_nielsen 13 Jul 2018
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      Sounds like a not-terribly-interesting argument over definitions. Is a galaxy classification scientifically useful? Yes.

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        2. Simon DeDeo‏ @SimonDeDeo 13 Jul 2018
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          I’m happy to blur things usually but here I think the distinctions matter.

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        3. michael_nielsen‏ @michael_nielsen 13 Jul 2018
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          Why? This is a classic case of different degrees. There's a continuum between classifying a galaxy and doing Nobel prizewinning work. In fact, the Zooites show it, rather nicely, with many, many different levels of engagement & understanding.

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