Me on @MargRev (thanks @tylercowen):https://marginalrevolution.com/marginalrevolution/2018/05/michael-nielsen-standing-one-foot.html …
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Replying to @devonzuegel @michael_nielsen and
I'm worried that even asking this question is violating "Yes, and" culture, but: What *is* "Yes, and" culture? Is it about sharing cool things, rather than expressing opinions? (Or does it mean expressing opinions, but not expressing disagreement w/others' opinions?)
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Replying to @juliagalef @devonzuegel and
It’s a term from improv theatre, used to enable very good improvisational performances: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yes,_and … Roughly, it means accepting what the other has said, and riffing in a direction inspired by it, not blocking.
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Replying to @michael_nielsen @juliagalef and
It’s possible to violate, but usually requires considerable skill and a lot of established context. For similar reasons, online argument & judgement often fails.
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Replying to @michael_nielsen @juliagalef and
You may be amused: I explicitly think in terms of a “Julia exception” (I swear I’m not making this up): you so consistently argue in good faith that it’s possible to argue productively with you even within the rather restrictive confines of Twitter.
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Replying to @michael_nielsen @juliagalef and
For most people - even people I like a great deal and who I find it easy to argue with in person - Twitter (esp at 140 chars, less so now) encourages you to strip out all the little allowances that are actually crucial for good argument.
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Replying to @michael_nielsen @juliagalef and
And, of course, in general good argument requires a lot of good faith norms to be present and enforced. These are not present in many parts of the Internet, and hard to conjure up quickly. Thus “Yes, and” is often a good default starting point. And it’s a wonderful mode, anyway!!
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Replying to @michael_nielsen @juliagalef and
I wonder if we can formulate the benefits of "Yes, and" in terms algorithms? It's kind of like a constraint problem, you can flip a bit and see all the clauses that are violated, all that is wrong, or you can flip a bit, and see that it is a path out of a local minimum.
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A sort of gentle, high temperature simulated anneal!
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