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    1. michael_nielsen‏ @michael_nielsen 30 May 2018
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      michael_nielsen Retweeted Tools for thought

      On the curious similarity between mathematics and imaginative design.https://twitter.com/tools_4_thought/status/1001966675451924480 …

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      Something I don't understand well is the relationship between mathematics and design. In some sense, mathematicians are designers: they specify new objects and relationships between them, and study the emergent properties that result.
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    2. Max Kreminski‏ @maxkreminski 30 May 2018
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      are you familiar with “An Invitation to Category Theory for Designers”? it tries to explicitly make the connection between abstraction in the context of design (esp architecture) & category theory as a toolset for dealing with abstraction in general http://mathematicians.org.uk/eoh/files/CTFD8.pdf …

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    3. michael_nielsen‏ @michael_nielsen 30 May 2018
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      No, I haven’t. Must admit, I took a class on category theory, and didn’t get a lot out of it (almost the only math class of which that was true; certainly the only well-taught class of which that was true).

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      michael_nielsen‏ @michael_nielsen 30 May 2018
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      Interesting to see that Grothendieck apparently liked category theory. I wonder what he saw in it? (Many leading mathematicians seem rather skeptical it has much value; as you probably know it’s often referred to as “General nonsense”.)

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        2. Jeremy Kun‏ @jeremyjkun 31 May 2018
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          Replying to @michael_nielsen @maxkreminski

          Most accounts I've heard say he used it to revolutionize algebraic geometry. Category theory is much more popular than this tweet lets on. I know many active professional mathematicians who say that category theory is a hard prerequisite for modern pure math.

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        3. Jeremy Kun‏ @jeremyjkun 31 May 2018
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          The accounts of Grothendieck I've heard made it sound like he and a few colleagues, over the course of a few months, rewrote algebraic geometry in category theory, while inventing new parts along the way, his colleagues furiously scribbling notes to keep pace.

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        1. 1/(1 - 1/(1 - 1/(1 - Dan Piponi)))‏ @sigfpe 30 May 2018
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          The term comes from category theorists themselves. And mathematicians will occasionally say things like "this bit follows by general nonsense". This is not meant to be disparaging. It's more an indication that machinery is used that's more general that the subject in hand.

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        1. wenjimi‏ @JimiWen 30 May 2018
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          "architecture is frozen music, ... that means music is liquid architecture"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ET2UoTwwJuk&t=165s …

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        1. Max Kreminski‏ @maxkreminski 30 May 2018
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          tbh I haven't studied it in any great depth, & I suspect the bits that I find useful are some of the shallowest (high-level intuitions about structure-preserving maps between spaces, etc). a whole class on it might rapidly get into stuff with no intuitive use to me

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        1. Joe Heavner‏ @JoeHeavner 31 May 2018
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          To be clear, terms like “general abstract nonsense” are also used playfully or otherwise without any negative connotation. Grothendieck used category theory to revolutionize math. He was singular in his seemingly natural ability to reason categorically and do so to great result.

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