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    very offline potat‏ @metapotat Apr 21
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    very offline potat Retweeted Divia Eden

    Reminder that the most deadly pathogen in human history, the Spanish flu, was leaked from a human lab in the 1970s. It had previously been wiped out. Now you know it as influenza A subtype H1N1, an endemic disease in humans.https://twitter.com/diviacaroline/status/1252813408769990656 …

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    Divia Eden @diviacaroline
    “Suggesting that lethal viruses can be leaked from labs is the opposite of a conspiracy theory. There is nothing to organize, plan, or conspire. It’s a decentralized, emergent phenomenon. Human error exists and risk compounding over time is non-ergodic.” https://twitter.com/eigenrobot/status/1252674550396907520 …
    9:44 PM - 21 Apr 2020
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      2. very offline potat‏ @metapotat Apr 21
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        We don't know which lab it leaked from, no one would admit to it. But probably a lab in Russia or China. How do we know it came from a lab? It was nearly genetically identical to preserved specimens from 1918. It had not mutated like it had been around for decades.

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      3. very offline potat‏ @metapotat Apr 21
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        Source: this very excellent lecture on the origins of the spanish flu pandemic https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48Klc3DPdtk … Highly recommend

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        very offline potat Retweeted Nurit Baytch

        To be completely clear on this: the 1918 spanish flu was the introduction of H1N1 into humans. H1N1 was wiped out by 1957. In 1977 it reemerged & matched 1950 strains of H1N1. Source w/ timestamp: https://youtu.be/48Klc3DPdtk?t=3842 …https://twitter.com/NuritBaytch/status/1252843520353660929 …

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        Nurit Baytch @NuritBaytch
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        it was a 1950 strain that leaked from a lab in 1977, not the Spanish Flu: https://www.nejm.org/doi/10.1056/NEJMra0904322 … pic.twitter.com/7sMBqmNqT0
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      5. very offline potat‏ @metapotat Apr 22
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        Any errors in this thread were my own, except my source did call the spanish flu / H1N1 "the worst pathogen in human history" at one point. This is perhaps an overstatement, but "worst in the 20th century" or "one of the worst in human history" does seem fair.

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      6. very offline potat‏ @metapotat Apr 22
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        Anyway, point is: accidental releases of deadly pathogen from research labs - more likely than you think.

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      2. St. Rev  ☯️ 🏴 😻‏ @St_Rev Apr 21
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        You think Spanish flu was deadlier than plague?

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      3. very offline potat‏ @metapotat Apr 21
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        I was thinking about that when I tweeted, but I was quoting the lecturer in the youtube link. Plague probably wins on % terms, but spanish flu probably wins on raw numbers. (I say before looking up the stats)

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      2. Nurit Baytch‏ @NuritBaytch Apr 21
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        Replying to @metapotat @SimonDeDeo

        it was a 1950 strain that leaked from a lab in 1977, not the Spanish Flu: https://www.nejm.org/doi/10.1056/NEJMra0904322 …pic.twitter.com/7sMBqmNqT0

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      3. very offline potat‏ @metapotat Apr 21
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        Replying to @NuritBaytch @SimonDeDeo

        Ah, good catch. I misrembered the vid I bet. I'm sure my source had it right.

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      1. One‏ @OneGravitas Apr 22
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        Replying to @metapotat @reaIDickMNixon

        Spanish Flu isnt anywhere near the most deadly pathogen in history. Smallpox (which arguably is) *also* leaked from a lab though.

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