This idea that 'self-care' and self-improvement is Capitalist propaganda is not a view I agree with but: If so, when _do/will_ leftists begin to take responsibility of themselves, what external environment is needed for them to accept some (most) self-faults are their own?
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Replying to @meta_nomad
Seems to me you are simply asking them to adopt your particular model of agency. Sophisticated leftists might just say they want us to seek co-responsibility in a world where no entity is an island. Care of self and care of other may just be co-extensive.
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Replying to @brightabyss @meta_nomad
Moreover, why (or maybe how) is the practice faulting oneself - as self shaming - the most effective way of deploying limited agency in the service of sapience optimization? Anchoring self-organization at the individual egoic level seems a particularly crude way of people-making.
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Replying to @brightabyss
Self-optimize is better wording than faulting then. All begin from a somewhat default position wrt many factors, each can optimize. As for the individual anchoring, after all decisions by a collective are made its ultimately up to the individual if they wish to partake...
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Replying to @meta_nomad
Changing the narrative from one of responsibility and blame to that of a generic self-optimization misses your original point about the psychology and politics of causal attribution, doesn’t it?
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Replying to @brightabyss @meta_nomad
My point is that Lefties operate from a diff ontology of response-ability than Righties; one that organizes very different political priorities. So it’s not so much a matter of Lefties getting their shit together as adults as much as it is about diff approaches to people-making.
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Can you explain the differences concisely?
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