Who makes nukes possible?
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Replying to @meta_nomad @realMaxCastle
my quibble exactly with
@adornofthagn (which is why I don't think it's generally agreed upon). but the central point is that it's all about capital escape.2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes -
Replying to @cyborg_nomade @meta_nomad and
Summoning Schwund to a thread like this is to summon a demon
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Replying to @ungeometer @cyborg_nomade and
thx but you'll notice my restraint here, guess i was too weary to point out that nukes already are possible
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Replying to @adornofthagn @ungeometer and
Of course they are. I'm saying who _made_ nukes possible, whether they're controlled or not...
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Replying to @meta_nomad @ungeometer and
a couple of clever hungarian jews, but nukes have become obtainable even lacking that resource by now, even, and don't take this the racist way, if you're the government of pakistan
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Replying to @adornofthagn @ungeometer and
*Head close to implosion* Nukes don't grow on fucking trees - yet - there *HAD* to be humans to make nukes a possibility.
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Replying to @meta_nomad @adornofthagn and
I don't see the point of this questions? What is the cash out? Why does it matter that humans "made nukes"?
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Replying to @realMaxCastle @adornofthagn and
The point of the question is that - and this isn't some form of humanism - humans undoubtedly play a key role in acceleration so it'd be silly to just denounce them into the motion as such. This doesn't mean one has to give them agency though.
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Replying to @meta_nomad @adornofthagn and
If they don't have agency then you might as well say this piece of the steel made the nukes. Your question presupposes human agency for the question to be meaningful. But this gets at the basic criticism of r/acc: it's a humanism. So, not that different from l/acc.
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It doesn't presuppose agency at all, humans without free will could make nukes, no? I'm saying, even if we're just a determinate part to a process, we are, at this stage, an important part. And it's interesting to see how the human 'part' might or did go wrong.
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Replying to @meta_nomad @realMaxCastle and
it's not like human production isn't a competitive system. even if a part of it goes awry, they get eliminated for their dysfunctionality.
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