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    1. Meta-Nomad‏ @meta_nomad Jul 20

      Treading Carefully: As far as I can see the core problem of the U/Acc - R/Acc debate is unfortunately due to free floating definitions. With this said, let's define:

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    2. Meta-Nomad‏ @meta_nomad Jul 20

      L/Acc is quite simply the easiest to define. Accelerating and re-purposing technological innovation as a means towards Communism. In this sense L/Acc is synonymous with FALC.

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    3. Meta-Nomad‏ @meta_nomad Jul 20

      R/Acc (oh boy) then isn't necessarily the traditional inverse of the inherent 'Leftism' of L/Acc as much as the inverse of its process, of its Telos. That is, R/Acc is acceleration of capital...for capital's own sake, for its self-fulfillment, as a means of it becoming AI.

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    4. Meta-Nomad‏ @meta_nomad Jul 20

      Which brings us to U/Acc, most thoroughly extrapolated by Garton, is quite simply Acceleration without Conditions. So the problem here lies in the end. For many U/Accers are - literally - communists and thus believe the end goal of U/Acc is Communism - in-keeping with Marx.

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    5. Max Castle‏ @realMaxCastle Jul 20
      Replying to @meta_nomad

      What you've set up here is a dialectic with u/acc as the emerging term. That you don't cash this out doesn't really matter.

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    6. Meta-Nomad‏ @meta_nomad Jul 20
      Replying to @realMaxCastle

      Emerging term? What would you like me to cash out?

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    7. Max Castle‏ @realMaxCastle Jul 20
      Replying to @meta_nomad

      Your definition of r/acc is what I would say u/acc is. This gets to what I think @cyborg_nomade says about u/acc being what was r/acc (did I get this right?). If u/acc are a bunch of commies then the development of strong AI is the best plan for a Marxist economy. (1 of 2)

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    8. inhumane kantian‏ @cyborg_nomade Jul 20
      Replying to @realMaxCastle @meta_nomad

      yeah, I mean. if r/acc is simply capital escape, then it's really no different from u/acc, all wailing to the contrary. this is indeed what Land meant by u/acc back in 2014, as an opposition to l/acc. but that's not what we've seen on twitter since (at least) last year.

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    9. inhumane kantian‏ @cyborg_nomade Jul 20
      Replying to @cyborg_nomade @realMaxCastle @meta_nomad

      what we've seen is scattered and very inarticulate, but seems to revolve around some notion of restoring humanity to some past condition, where acceleration was possible, implying 1) the effectivity of human action, 2) some definite albeit possibly limited control over the future

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    10. inhumane kantian‏ @cyborg_nomade Jul 20
      Replying to @cyborg_nomade @realMaxCastle @meta_nomad

      U/acc is a fatalism before anything else, which seems contrary to both l/acc and r/acc.

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      Meta-Nomad‏ @meta_nomad Jul 20
      Replying to @cyborg_nomade @realMaxCastle

      Fatalism leads to Communism then?

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        2. Schwundfꙫrm  😔 ➡️ 🤔 ➡️ 😔'‏ @adornofthagn Jul 20
          Replying to @meta_nomad @cyborg_nomade @realMaxCastle

          *if* there is a path to communism it is a fatalistic path, this isn't even some innovative hellcom u/acc shit, this is mere orthodoxy

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        3. Max Castle‏ @realMaxCastle Jul 20
          Replying to @adornofthagn @meta_nomad @cyborg_nomade

          It's in the Manifesto.

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        1. Plaꜩhalter des Nichts‏ @TiefeEwigkeit Jul 20
          Replying to @meta_nomad @cyborg_nomade @realMaxCastle

          I would certainly argue that it's the other way around.

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        1. Mimetïc Value‏ @MimeticValue Jul 20
          Replying to @meta_nomad @cyborg_nomade @realMaxCastle

          Or rather communism is a type of fatalism, a materialist's Rapture.

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