Treading Carefully: As far as I can see the core problem of the U/Acc - R/Acc debate is unfortunately due to free floating definitions. With this said, let's define:
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In this sense L/Acc and U/Acc are alike in the latter's subjective endgame. The confusion, I believe, is with the R and Rx (reaction). Many R/Accers understand that without conditions capital simply won't accelerate. That leaving unconditional humanity to be the -
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- bootloader for [Capital-as]-AI is a mistake. Our organisational skills fragment as IQs are shredded and we become complacent with the present. Capital doesn't seem to understand the general economy, humans need to help it understand and put conditions in place for it to -
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- fully utilize the finite resources we have. Otherwise capital will simply continue its runaway expansion without considering its fuels finitude. L/Acc is simply Marxism, and its becoming adheres to the same traditional constraints as before.
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U/Acc is undoubtedly going to become or, always already is, but without conditions or a divergent endgame it's allowing capital free-rein of resources which it won't use as well as it _could_ in terms of an end.
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R/Acc as capital becoming teleological super-AI cannot happen without conditions because the means of intellectual propulsion are being squandered on trinkets for dumb apes.
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This is why R and Rx are often mistaken for one another, because R often sees Rx as a means to stop and redirect the squandering of resources back towards capital's self-fulfillment.
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Z/Acc comes in as that which is the pessimistic form of the above - it is too fucking late - no amount of Rx could redirect the current appropriation of capital, doing so would be to try stop Cthulhu.
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What you've set up here is a dialectic with u/acc as the emerging term. That you don't cash this out doesn't really matter.
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Emerging term? What would you like me to cash out?
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Your definition of r/acc is what I would say u/acc is. This gets to what I think
@cyborg_nomade says about u/acc being what was r/acc (did I get this right?). If u/acc are a bunch of commies then the development of strong AI is the best plan for a Marxist economy. (1 of 2) -
Whilst it's fresh in my mind. You could say u/Acc is R/Acc without the conditions. But once you remove the conditions you're fundamentally opening up acceleration to hope on humanity's innovation efforts, not sure if you've looked at people lately?
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Not really sure how the conditions are not humanist.
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The conditions - which would have to be Rx at this point - would be as humanist as it would be to bootload a runaway capital superAI that sees humans as atoms.
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Isn't any condition at all a humanist endeavor? If there is a condition, it surely serves some human purpose, no?
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For a short time it would, sure. Is beginning the self-fulfillment of an AI that cares not for humanity a humanist endeavour?
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I still have difficulty understanding the means by which L/Acc ends in communism. Much like modern communism, it seems to be missing a crucial set of realistic processes to achieve its end goal. If anything Acc. leads to some “otherness,” maybe beyond cap., but how communism?
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>I still have difficulty understanding the means by which L/Acc ends in communism Don't we all...
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And while we’re on the topic, I have difficulty finding anything essentially “left” about Acc. in general. Any conceivable end game of acc. is right/technocratic/anarchic.
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beyond the alleged “gadgetry,” which pretty conveniently disregards “meaningful” tech progress made in the past 30 years. Regardless this is so far the most concrete set of ideals I’ve seen put forth for L/acc.
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Though even here admits to a lack of concrete systems beyond the “how to achieve control” phase. This is in line with the baseless optimism of modern communists. It’s just another call to action without specifying any actionspic.twitter.com/dqucx2kkdn
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