@mergesort Your “hybrid” point seems to be undermined by the fact that he also calls Objective-C hybrid.
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@mjtsai Totally fair, but he also acknowledges that it’s a spectrum (having tendencies). Objective-C leans towards dynamism, Swift static.
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@mergesort@brentsimmons@brentsimmons This! I would stress more than you did that Swift isn’t even done yet. More future coolness coming. -
@gregtitus@brentsimmons I didn’t want to lean on it, because we don’t know it’s future, and there are many other factors to touch on.
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@mergesort@gregtitus My point is that app developers should talk about the problems they need to solve, and thus help guide that future. -
@brentsimmons@gregtitus It may be perception but the arguments I’ve been hearing sound like “Apple forgot about how this affects apps.” -
@mergesort@gregtitus Nobody (that I know of) is being judgmental. We’re saying that these problems need to be considered in the language.
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@mergesort@brentsimmons You close by saying we can recreate what Obj-C offers with protocols and generics. Please show me how. (Not snark.) - View other replies
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@bdkjones I actually said, the advantages it’s dynamism offers, which is subtly different. Proper reflection would be a huge boom to that.
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@mergesort Also, the “dynamic” in that post is about “dynamic dispatch,” i.e. virtual methods, not message sending or typing. -
@mergesort I’m Team Swift too! But I’m taking the time to document problems that are hard to solve with Swift-minus-Objective-C-runtime.
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