Story time!
A valid question from a Google engineer lead to this video.
At all night hackathons, folk get tired. Because that's how humans work.
When I've judged hackathons at Claremont, they run around the building at 2am. At Howard, it's the 2am turn up.
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You don't have to be Google scale to do this. And this doesn't only have to be tech. In tech, we are often interviewing for "Do you know who Gayle Lackmann McDowell is?" In business, we're often interviewing for, "Are you familiar with the Bain or McKinsey interview format?"
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Ask yourself, how much of your interview process is really testing for access, and how much is really indicative of ability to perform and excel in the environment of your company. Doing so will reduce false negatives, but also reduce false positives...
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IMO this problem exists in the first place cause Google interview checks skills only very remotely related to actual work at Google. Interview: whiteboard algorithm without access to computer Real Google work: trivial conversion of protos
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Pretty much every tech company in the industry is doing "Google style" interviews which focus on CS fundamentals, algorithms, etc. I made up a PDF to give to candidates to prepare them for interviews. Lots of info online - no excuses in 2019.
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this is awesome and totally admirable work, but i can’t help but think some of this time and this energy would be better spent making google’s interview process more representative of the actual skills needed on the job.
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there’s obviously still the access to information problem, but when the information is stuff you’re more likely to pick up without being specifically prepped for it, some of that goes away i would imagine.
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Shouldn't the onus be on Google to figure out & implement better hiring standards, rather than disseminate info about their flawed ones? This might be a good step if there were anything valuable in what they're testing for, but IME it feels as contrived & as useless as the SAT
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The problem of access is a huge one, but so long as people are designing technical interviews the way they are - which are implicitly classist, racist, sexist - we're *always* going to be playing catch-up in terms of access. & for what? It doesn't even measure anything meaningful
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Are you talking about the NYC high school entrance exam? No? Seemed like this could work there too!
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Great story, but there’s a difference between prepping for an interview and prepping for a job. If you need a tailored interview prep class in a CS degree, then perhaps your interview needs to change, not the degree. You want people that are good at the job, not interviews.
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Facts.
The only thing I disagree with is your use of the word "perhaps."
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Why do you think that is?
And yes, this is a valid question.
: Did you know that there is literally a class in Stanford's CS curriculum, that is basically "How to pass Google's Interview?"
: Wait... what?! Really?
If the 1st time you ever try to shoot a 3 point shot, is in the NBA finals with LeBron James guarding you, you're probably gonna miss. Similarly, if your 1st real interview is at Google HQ, you'll miss.
