The communist experiment has been tried many times and always ended in tyranny, starvation and death. When will communists show some scientific method and accept they and it is wrong?
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Replying to @simon_enefer @KEEMSTAR and
Have I not yet provided multiple examples of communism not ending in tyranny, starvation, OR death? That’s normally like, the first thing people ask. I like MAREZ as a fun example, they’re strapped all the time, yet they’re *still* not killing each other.
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Replying to @mediocre_danny @simon_enefer and
Anyway, capitalism kills 18 million people a year and has been responsible for genocides all over the world for the past 600 years. Why doesn’t anyone ever ask capitalists to admit THEY’RE wrong?
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Replying to @mediocre_danny @KEEMSTAR and
What genocides? Name one. Capitalism is barely 600 years old, and then only existed in a few places like Venice and The Netherlands.
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Replying to @simon_enefer @KEEMSTAR and
Capitalist genocides include: - The Late Victorian Holocausts (27M) - The Congo Free State (8M) - The Amazon Genocide (250k) - Famine under Decommunization (3-6M) - The Expansion of French Africa (13M) - The Transatlantic, Arab and Ottoman Slave Trades (genocidal byproduct ~40M)
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Replying to @mediocre_danny @KEEMSTAR and
1. Victorian holocaust 27m? Based on a single book? Congo more belivable Belgium was an appalling colonial power, but again how is this capitalism fault, colonialism was based on racial superiority, not capitalism.
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Replying to @simon_enefer @KEEMSTAR and
Leopold II was ABSOLUTELY motivated by the extraction of resources through capitalist ownership, and even accomplished his tyranny through a proto-PMC. The Belgians didn’t show up just because they wanted people to rule over. They wanted GOLD.
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Replying to @mediocre_danny @KEEMSTAR and
Again, I know little about the early history of colonial Congo, but I have heard it mentioned that Belgiums imperial rule was especially harsh. I would say capitalism doesn't equal greed. Ghengis Khan like gold! It didn't make him a capitalist!
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Replying to @simon_enefer @KEEMSTAR and
Well, what makes it capitalist is the means of extracting that gold. Labor and enterprise owned by external, private interests
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Replying to @mediocre_danny @KEEMSTAR and
I don't see the difference between a Belgium run plantation or mine in the Congo and a farm or mine "staffed" by prisoners in a Gulag? The both use force to obtain resources.
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Yep, exactly. Two forms of state-run slavery: one in the service of capitalists and private ownership, one in the service of social welfare and a vanguard party. A lot more people died as Leopold’s workers than as gulag inmates, though.
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