Anyone who supported Marxism after the 1920s is as suspect as someone whi supports national socialism post 1945. They are branches of the same philosophical/political tree. If anything Marxismis worse. Responsible for at least 4 times as many deaths and untold misery.
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Replying to @simon_enefer @KEEMSTAR and
You might not like hearing this, but... capitalism is responsible for many more deaths than could be attributed to Marxism. It’s been used to justify genocide since the Age of Exploration, all deaths caused by artificial scarcity (and by Nestlé and Chiquita), and so much more.
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Replying to @mediocre_danny @simon_enefer and
That being said, modern Marxists don’t support the policies that led to so many deaths, bc they aren’t needed by socialism— the biggest tragedies were just bad agriculture No specific course of gov’t action is *needed* for socialism beyond the state not suppressing labor anymore
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Replying to @mediocre_danny @KEEMSTAR and
3. The issue the wealth and power of the elite remains. How to align their interests with the rest of us? Venice is the only state to do this over an extended period. Read Julius Norwich history of Venice. Brilliant book, especially the section on how Doges were elected!
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Replying to @simon_enefer @KEEMSTAR and
In any properly (market) socialist system, the only rich would have received their money through their own labor or art, rather than through their property ownership. The main thing socialism objects to is the ability of owners to continue profiting massively without labor.
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Replying to @mediocre_danny @KEEMSTAR and
4. Need a more contemporary example? Look at the wage increases in Hungary over the last decade. I was in Budapest last year and business managers were lamenting high pay increases and the difficulty of recruitment. Want to help workers, stop immigration.
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Replying to @simon_enefer @KEEMSTAR and
The notion you’re suggesting is that you have to hurt some workers to help other workers, while restricting the freedoms of both in the process. But a much more direct solution that does NOT have these effects is known— strengthening unions internationally.
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Replying to @mediocre_danny @KEEMSTAR and
4. The Left has questionable allies, Tech billionaires outsourcing to companies that would make a Victorian blush, a currency speculator who caused the 1998 financial crisis in the Far East! By their friends shall yeh know them!
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Replying to @simon_enefer @KEEMSTAR and
No billionaire is my “ally.” Liberals are not leftists.
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Replying to @mediocre_danny @KEEMSTAR and
But they use you for their purposes, just as they use the naive Right and the rest of us! I have seen government and big business up close and the only major difference is the titles people hold. By and large those in charge are out if their depth and just not that bright.
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I understand that they use us; using people is what the elite do, it’s practically their job. I’m not sure if I mentioned this, but you *are* talking to an Anarchist— I tend not to have the most optimistic view of those in charge, be it through state or capital.
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