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Professor, physicist, sci comm. Black holes, quantum gravity, cosmology. Rocky Top. Tar Heel. RT = spooky action at a distance. Opinions are mine alone. He/him.

Chicago, z=0
jacobi.luc.edu
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    Robert McNees‏ @mcnees 24 Jul 2015

    I can't not respond to this kind of comment. http://www.npr.org/2015/07/23/425654421/looking-for-earth-like-planets-provides-clues-for-finding-life-like-ours …pic.twitter.com/3JcHHoMyZH

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      2. Robert McNees‏ @mcnees 26 May 2016
        Replying to @mcnees

        Robert McNees Retweeted Katie Mack

        Yes to this, times a million. And it's important for people to understand that this is supported by facts.https://twitter.com/AstroKatie/status/735725400198778881 …

        Robert McNees added,

        Katie MackVerified account @AstroKatie
        Replying to @AstroKatie
        Politicians like to talk about creating industry applications & new technology, but funding basic research is a big part of how to get that.
        5 replies 40 retweets 146 likes
      3. Robert McNees‏ @mcnees 26 May 2016
        Replying to @mcnees

        In 2007 the Congressional Budget Office -- their job is to provide non-partisan economic analysis -- issued a report on Federal R&D funding.

        1 reply 56 retweets 72 likes
      4. Robert McNees‏ @mcnees 26 May 2016
        Replying to @mcnees

        You can read a copy of the report here: https://www.cbo.gov/sites/default/files/110th-congress-2007-2008/reports/06-18-research.pdf …

        1 reply 20 retweets 33 likes
      5. Robert McNees‏ @mcnees 26 May 2016
        Replying to @mcnees

        But allow me to summarize some of their main conclusions. First, Federal funding of R&D is good, period. Major economic and social impact.

        1 reply 21 retweets 66 likes
      6. Robert McNees‏ @mcnees 26 May 2016
        Replying to @mcnees

        They conclude that Federal funding of Basic Research (curiosity-driven stuff) tends to have higher ROI than any other use of that money.

        3 replies 68 retweets 107 likes
      7. Robert McNees‏ @mcnees 26 May 2016
        Replying to @mcnees

        And it works best when the government does it, as opposed to industry.

        1 reply 13 retweets 48 likes
      8. Robert McNees‏ @mcnees 26 May 2016
        Replying to @mcnees

        First, the results of BR are profound but unpredictable. Will something useful emerge now or in 20 years? Industry wants predictable returns

        1 reply 10 retweets 41 likes
      9. Robert McNees‏ @mcnees 26 May 2016
        Replying to @mcnees

        Second, when a company can be convinced to spend its own $ on BR, it tends to avoid sharing results. Why subsidize R&D for your competition?

        1 reply 10 retweets 43 likes
      10. Robert McNees‏ @mcnees 26 May 2016
        Replying to @mcnees

        Third, when gov uses tax credits to incentivize industry research $, results are mixed. Focus is on maxing out tax breaks, not the research.

        1 reply 8 retweets 32 likes
      11. Robert McNees‏ @mcnees 26 May 2016
        Replying to @mcnees

        Anyway, the point is, of all the ways we (society) can fund basic research, federal (public) funding is hands-down the most effective.

        1 reply 21 retweets 50 likes
      12. Robert McNees‏ @mcnees 26 May 2016
        Replying to @mcnees

        And basic research -- much more than applied research or development -- is where you get the most bang for your buck.

        1 reply 10 retweets 35 likes
      13. Robert McNees‏ @mcnees 26 May 2016
        Replying to @mcnees

        Spillover from BR is the major economic driver. This is the stuff that you can't predict. The "Huh that's weird" stuff that no one expected.

        1 reply 10 retweets 29 likes
      14. Robert McNees‏ @mcnees 26 May 2016
        Replying to @mcnees

        Now, you might think "Fine, but at least we should fund BR that has a clear connection to something with distinct economic returns."

        1 reply 6 retweets 20 likes
      15. Robert McNees‏ @mcnees 26 May 2016
        Replying to @mcnees

        You'd be wrong! Historically, we get the most return from trusting the curiosity of scientists & the judgement of peer-reviewed Fed funding.

        2 replies 9 retweets 41 likes
      16. Robert McNees‏ @mcnees 26 May 2016
        Replying to @mcnees

        Academic BR is often lambasted for selecting projects that seem outlandish or wasteful. Why should taxpayers fund a mantis shrimp study?

        3 replies 5 retweets 14 likes
      17. Robert McNees‏ @mcnees 26 May 2016
        Replying to @mcnees

        Well, for starters, because the PI convinced several very critical scientists and one or more funding agencies that it's a good idea.

        1 reply 6 retweets 19 likes
      18. Robert McNees‏ @mcnees 26 May 2016
        Replying to @mcnees

        But if you're skeptical then maybe you want an economic justification. Fine, that's in the CBO report, too.

        3 replies 5 retweets 15 likes
      19. Robert McNees‏ @mcnees 26 May 2016
        Replying to @mcnees

        Studies of return-on-investment for BR often use Academic BR as a proxy for all Fed funded BR. And the conclusion is always: major return.

        1 reply 7 retweets 21 likes
      20. Robert McNees‏ @mcnees 26 May 2016
        Replying to @mcnees

        CBO cautions against taking specific numbers literally (Mansfield et al cite ROI > 28% for academic BR) but supports the general conclusion.

        1 reply 5 retweets 17 likes
      21. Robert McNees‏ @mcnees 26 May 2016
        Replying to @mcnees

        So don't take my word for it! I'm an academic scientist with an agenda.

        1 reply 5 retweets 19 likes
      22. Robert McNees‏ @mcnees 26 May 2016
        Replying to @mcnees

        Instead, trust the non-partisan organization whose job is to provide Congress with impartial economic analysis.

        1 reply 7 retweets 24 likes
      23. Robert McNees‏ @mcnees 26 May 2016
        Replying to @mcnees

        Curiosity-driven research, selected via scientific peer-review, free of political micromanaging, is one of the best uses of taxpayer $.

        5 replies 44 retweets 72 likes
      24. Robert McNees‏ @mcnees 26 May 2016
        Replying to @mcnees

        ~Fin~

        0 replies 4 retweets 19 likes
      25. End of conversation

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