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NY Mag TV critic. Editor-at-large, http://RogerEbert.com . The Wes Anderson Collection, Sopranos Sessions. Film & TV bookstore here: http://mzsworldstore.com 

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    1. MZS‏ @mattzollerseitz Mar 16

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      Fun to see people in the mentions arguing about whether Pauline Kael was a hero or a menace. She died 19+ years ago, folks. That means she still wins. https://twitter.com/BWDR/status/1371881258179981312 …

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      MZS‏ @mattzollerseitz Mar 16

      People keep posting that Renata Adler takedown of Pauline Kael as if it’s some kind of trump card. The funny thing is, nobody would even know who Renata Adler is today if she hadn’t tried to take down Pauline Kael.

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        1. MZS‏ @mattzollerseitz Mar 16

          I’m not walking this one back—you’ll just have to stay mad at me for it. A lot of the complaints on here about Pauline Kael strike me as very petty and wrongheaded and insufficiently willing to acknowledge how much the profession owes to her in a good way.

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        2. brandon soderberg‏ @notrivia Mar 16
          Replying to @mattzollerseitz

          I’m not gonna weigh in on Kael but Adler is hugely influential especially her reporting and novels!

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        3. MZS‏ @mattzollerseitz Mar 16
          Replying to @notrivia

          I’m not saying I don’t respect her. I’m saying she didn’t have as vivid and persistent an impact on the culture.

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        2. Outstanding Content‏ @bestmanofonline Mar 16
          Replying to @mattzollerseitz

          As someone who likes Pauline Kael (well, usually), I don't think whether Adler is famous or not is relevant to the accuracy/inaccuracy of her criticisms of Kael.

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        3. MZS‏ @mattzollerseitz Mar 16
          Replying to @bestmanofonline

          I’m not talking about accuracy or inaccuracy. I was saying that the only reason one of these critics is remembered at all is because she came after the other one.

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        2. Malcolm T Nicholson‏ @mt_nicholson Mar 16
          Replying to @mattzollerseitz

          Speedboad, Pitch Dark, and decades as a staff writer at the New Yorker might offer some other means by which people (like myself) know her work?

          1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
        3. Malcolm T Nicholson‏ @mt_nicholson Mar 16
          Replying to @mt_nicholson @mattzollerseitz

          I say this as someone who loves Kael and has referred to her work in several essays. It just seems a strange point ot make? It's like saying the only reason anyone knows Mary McCarthy is because she had beef with Lilian Hellman.

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        2. Joshua Joy Kamensky‏ @jjkamensky Mar 16
          Replying to @mattzollerseitz

          As someone who purchased but has not read the NYRB reissue of Speedboat, allow me to be the first person to nitpick this tweet with reference to Adler's literary output

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        3. MZS‏ @mattzollerseitz Mar 16
          Replying to @jjkamensky

          It's not about the output!

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        2. Eleanore‏ @leucocrystal Mar 17
          Replying to @mattzollerseitz

          Can't agree. Speaking as a publisher, bookseller and writer who isn't tied to the film industry in any way, absolutely no one my age or younger knows Adler because of Kael. We know her as a novelist, particularly thanks to NYRB in recent years. Kael doesn't even cross my mind.

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        3. MZS‏ @mattzollerseitz Mar 17
          Replying to @leucocrystal

          I didn’t express myself clearly. I never liked that piece because it seemed marinated in professional resentment/jealousy while pretending to take a lofty, detached, intellectual point of view. That’s why I don’t think much of it as a trump card in discussions of Kael.

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