@mattklewis the prosperity gospel is a logical endpoint to the modern american evangelical rejection of (Catholic) redemptive suffering.
@RyanLEllis Perhaps. As such, modern incarnation can probably be traced back to the the faith/grace vs. works debate.
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@mattklewis if that were the case, there would have been prosperity gospels in zurich/wittenberg. but it's an american thing from <100 yrs -
@RyanLEllis But they would argue that Abraham practiced the prosperity gospel .. -
@mattklewis if one serves God (like Abraham did), his life will be rightly ordered and things will line up better. not same as P.G. -
@RyanLEllis By calling it the PG, I'm appropriating the words of its critics. More specifically, mine is a defense of the "so-called" PG. -
@mattklewis call it what you want, but at the end of the day it's christianity sans the cross, which is simply a new age phenomenon. -
@RyanLEllis I guess I disagree with your premise. -
@mattklewis ok. where's the cross in osteen's theology? how does the suffering we inevitably face factor in to his worldview? -
@RyanLEllis I have stuff to say, but not sure I can have this sort of debate in 140 characters. We will probably have to agree to disagree.
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@mattklewis it's post-modern self-referentialism, filtered through american consumerism, & given a shiny gloss of bourgeois evangelicalismThanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
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@mattklewis christiaity teaches that the good things you reference come by being crucified with christ, and sharing in his resurrection - End of conversation
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