@conor64 I take your point, but for the purposes of public discussion, is anyone arguing against consent?
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Replying to @DouthatNYT
@conor64 Even w/tacit support for prison rape, the violation of consent is seen as a punishment, not raised as an alt. ethical vision.1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes -
Replying to @DouthatNYT
@conor64 And w/date rape debate, the whole issue is what *counts* as consent in a drunken atmosphere, not whether the standard matters.2 replies 2 retweets 0 likes -
Replying to @DouthatNYT
@DouthatNYT I'd say that in many U.S. subcultures the idea of getting someone so drunk they'll have sex isn't considered so wrong.4 replies 0 retweets 2 likes -
Replying to @DouthatNYT
@conor64 ... some of the limits of "consent and only consent" as a sexual standard, not the need to just apply it more completely.2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes -
Replying to @DouthatNYT
@conor64 The culture you're critiquing doesn't necc. reject consent; it exploit a loophole that "it can't be wrong if she says yes" creates.1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes -
Replying to @DouthatNYT
@conor64 At bottom, we're having the same argument here that we did over sexting.5 replies 2 retweets 0 likes -
Replying to @DouthatNYT
@DouthatNYT@conor64 This comes down to a clash of fundamentally different worldviews. You won't persuade the other side.1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes -
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@mattklewis Perhaps not totally, but@douthatNYT often causes me to revise and refine my views.1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
@conor64 @DouthatNYT Some deep thoughts on one side of the worldview debate. http://opus.fm/blog/the-hopeless-disharmony … http://cincodenada.tumblr.com/post/13092915874/the-new-rebel-in-our-time-is-a-skeptic-and-will …
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