I am a pretty ardent feminist. I did not vote for Clinton twice because I believed the women. I campaigned for Hillary in 2008, she was the better candidate. I held my nose & voted for “hope & change”. Trump is unfit. Yes, character matters.
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Yeah, but somehow "character matters". Talk about the pot calling the kettle black.
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It’s not the pot calling the kettle black for me. Flaws are part of what we are. And the presidents of tomorrow will have an even tougher time b/c they will have grown up on social media, every bad decision laid bare. But character is about decision making guided by virtues.
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I get especially irritated at these conversations because I know they mean "the Democratic establishment" but it gets thrown at Dems personally on the ground too and I was like nine years old when the Clinton crap happened. Don't hold me responsible for that.
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Yes. And a central question here ought to be whether the defects in Clinton's character and the defects in Trump's character are roughly equivalent. I'll hang up and listen.
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Not even close. Don’t really care what husband and wife do with their marriage. But u need some ethics when running a country. Trumps a true con in the worst way. Trump showed what he’s always been.
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Some liberals at the time were appalled at Clinton’s conduct and said so. I was against impeachment but in favor of shunning forever.
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You willfully ignore the actions against Russia and fail to note any impeachable office other than you don't like him personally. Got it.
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Character is defined as the mental & moral qualities distinctive to an individual. A USA president, the putative leader of the free world, who lacks good character will also lack moral authority.
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Yes, it all started in the 1990s because it was "about the economy stupid". After 20 yrs of no character in politics I give you Donald J Trump. Let's be honest though, character in politics has been sketchy at best for longer than that, it's just front and center now!
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I agree. Obama set a terrible precedent when he weaponized the IRS and DOJ to target political opponents. Zero character or morality.
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Would anyone believe us if we said religious conservatives 20 years after Bubba would be mimicking Nina Burleigh’s indulgence of a POTUS’ appetites?
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I remember clearly having this discussion be4 Clinton’s election. I vote Dem no matter what when it gets down to 2 candidates. Primaries are when it’s time to weed out the bad seeds PS At the time it was (only!) adultery. I think now, since I believe Juanita Broderick it’s diff
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So, it’s hard to say, if I was stuck with an amoral flawed man like Clinton again at the final election. What choice would I have as a staunch Dem? How am I different than a Trump voter then?
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