She doubled down. It’s getting serious, fellas—if you don’t make it abundantly clear to your coworkers that you get laid all the time, Ellen is coming for you.https://twitter.com/ekp/status/1009019848783872000 …
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Replying to @matthews_bd
Not to ruin the joke, but by "incel" Pao doesn't mean someone who is not sexually active, but rather someone who shares beliefs with online incel communities.
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Replying to @as_per_ushe @matthews_bd
the preexisting word that already describes that clearly is "misogynist". that is the exact thing they're doing wrong so it's interesting she's talking about this one very tiny specific group of misogynists where their label applies literally to a lot of other people, isn't it
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Replying to @teleonomist @matthews_bd
I don't know, people like using the trendy new term from the news. Soon it will be something else. But the point is that Pao's meaning is the dominant one -- I don't see any sign of animus against awkward but non-misogynist guys who don't date much. (Ask me how I know!)
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Replying to @as_per_ushe @matthews_bd
right, she could've used "violent misogynists" instead of "incels" to be clearer but the latter is what's in the Discourse; the interesting thing is not really her choice or lack thereof but that "incels" instead of "violent misogynists" is what occupies the Discourse
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Replying to @teleonomist @matthews_bd
Benign explanation: Violent incels are different enough from violent misogynists in general to deserve their own term. Like we want to distinguish Elliot Rodger from e.g. an abusive husband. And most who self-ID as "incel" online have Rodger-type beliefs, so they get that label.
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Replying to @as_per_ushe @matthews_bd
why do we actually care about distinguishing between those two things, though? they all sound pretty bad and one is far, far more common anyway
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a slightly inflammatory analogy might be complaining about "globalist jews" when you eally mean "the people who i think run the world who are often but always jewish even though lots of jews arent in that group". one could be forgiven for thinking this person is anti-semitic
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Replying to @teleonomist @matthews_bd
Meaning is use. By incel most normies just mean Rodger types. Wouldn't even occur to them to use to to refer to non-misogynist non-sex-havers. And why a separate word? Because the behavior is different. No sign of it being weaponized like anti-semitic slurs were/are though.
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But that’s how a lot of political rhetoric works. You identify bad guys based on an overbroad term, then use that term to target more vulnerable people. When people got pissed about 9/11, they took it out on Sikh cab drivers and Iraqis
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