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    1. Matthew Green‏ @matthew_d_green Apr 25

      I am reading this piece about Ray Ozzie’s key escrow proposal in Wired. A few random thoughts.https://www.wired.com/story/crypto-war-clear-encryption …

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      Matthew Green‏ @matthew_d_green Apr 25

      1. First off, from a technical PoV this proposal (like most others) implies the existence of some ‘master key to all iPhones’. When that key gets stolen, there’s really no mechanism to detect it.pic.twitter.com/SIM7y5gdRF

      12:20 PM - 25 Apr 2018
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        2. Matthew Green‏ @matthew_d_green Apr 25

          2. More critically, Ozzie’s proposal relies on ‘a special chip inside the phone’ that bricks the phone if someone abuses the access mechanism. This is cute. It’s also (at present) a big fat giant elephant in the room.pic.twitter.com/swtkNTmSxg

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        3. Matthew Green‏ @matthew_d_green Apr 25

          3. Let’s be more clear about this. All Apple phones have a similar chip inside of them. This chip is designed to prevent people from brute-forcing the passcode by limiting the number of attempts you can make. At present, every one of these chips appears to be completely broken.

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        4. Matthew Green‏ @matthew_d_green Apr 25

          4. Specifically, there is some (as yet unknown) exploit that can completely bypass the internal protections provided by Apple’s Secure Enclave Processor. So effectively “the chip” Ozzie relies on is now broken.http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-5613597/Police-claim-unlock-iPhone-using-mysterious-10-000-GrayKey-box.html …

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        5. Matthew Green‏ @matthew_d_green Apr 25

          5. When you’re proposing a system that will affect the security of a billion Apple devices, and your proposal says “assume a lock nobody can break”, you’d better have some plan for building such a lock.

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        6. Matthew Green‏ @matthew_d_green Apr 25

          6. From my perspective, this problem alone is sufficient to make the Ozzie proposal unworkable.

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        7. Matthew Green‏ @matthew_d_green Apr 25

          7. ”Hold on,” I hear you cry, “so what if a few government agencies and hackers have a fancy 0day. That doesn’t mean anyone else will get it!” Have I got a headline for you. https://motherboard.vice.com/amp/en_us/article/qvx9jx/iphone-crackers-grayshift-graykey-leaked-code-extortion …pic.twitter.com/cPxW0Fv6c1

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        8. Matthew Green‏ @matthew_d_green Apr 25

          8. So let’s recap. We are going to insert a backdoor into billions of devices. It’s security relies on a chip that is now broken. AND the people who broke that chip MAY HAVE LEAKED THEIR CODE TO EXTORTIONISTS ON THE INTERNET.

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        9. Matthew Green‏ @matthew_d_green Apr 25

          9. The extortionists are apparently demanding 2 bitcoins.pic.twitter.com/gOKDhdWzHc

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        10. Matthew Green‏ @matthew_d_green Apr 25

          10. While this is not personal to Ozzie and I don’t hold him responsible for this, this episode exhibits all the characteristics of ‘crypto backdoor’ proposals since time began.

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        11. Matthew Green‏ @matthew_d_green Apr 25

          11. Assumes a security technology with yet-to-be-achieved resilience to attacks (insider and outsider) ✅ This technology is broken ✅ The break is comically accessible even by random criminals, not sophisticated nation state attackers ✅

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        12. Matthew Green‏ @matthew_d_green Apr 25

          12. And honestly this is a GOOD thing — that a key component of Ozzie’s proposal is being broken in a comical, public, horrifying way. Because other parts will also be broken. We just won’t know.

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        13. Matthew Green‏ @matthew_d_green Apr 25

          13. I’m thinking specifically of the ideas that assume we can include a ‘master iPhone decryption key’ inside an HSM and everything will just be fine. Because “people store keys all the time and it’s ok.”

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        14. Matthew Green‏ @matthew_d_green Apr 25

          14. (I could go on about Hardware Security Modules for days while sounding like a lunatic. I promise not to. Read this instead.)https://cryptosense.com/blog/the-untold-story-of-pkcs11-hsm-vulnerabilities/ …

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        15. Matthew Green‏ @matthew_d_green Apr 25

          15. (Ok I lied. You might also ask where HSM manufacturers recruit their knowledgeable crypto/security employees. Hint: one of the biggest vendors is located here in Maryland. I assume similar things are true of the non-US manufactures.)

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        16. Matthew Green‏ @matthew_d_green Apr 25

          16. (Seriously, LinkedIn is your friend. Also, super nice people! I love you guys.)

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        17. Matthew Green‏ @matthew_d_green Apr 25

          17. Leaving hardware aside, the simplest answer to the suggestion that companies like Apple can “easily keep secrets” is that they *haven’t been able to*. Apple had a big stack of source code stolen last Fall. https://www.theverge.com/platform/amp/2018/2/9/16997266/apple-source-code-leak-intern-internal-tools-jailbreaking-github-ios-9 …

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        18. Matthew Green‏ @matthew_d_green Apr 25

          18. While they haven’t turned up, the rumour I’ve heard from the jailbreaking community is that the leaked Apple code also included signing keys. So much for keeping secrets.

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        19. Matthew Green‏ @matthew_d_green Apr 25

          19. I would also inquire, without claiming any particular knowledge, whether Cellebrite or GrayKey have any recent Apple iOS engineers on the technical teams that developed their current iOS exploits.

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        20. Matthew Green‏ @matthew_d_green Apr 25

          20. This thread has gone on for way too long and I haven’t said half of what I wanted to say. But rather than bother you anymore, I’ll finish up with a quote from @ErrataRob, who sums up my feelings perfectly.pic.twitter.com/WEF31iHa70

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        2. Daniel Bilar‏ @daniel_bilar Apr 25
          Replying to @matthew_d_green

          @threadreaderapp Kindly unroll

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        3. Thread Reader App‏ @threadreaderapp Apr 25
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          Hello please find the unroll here: https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/989222719056220160.html … Talk to you soon. 🤖

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