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I work on @ChromeDevTools & @v8js at Google and on ECMAScript through TC39. ♥ JavaScript, HTML, CSS, HTTP, performance, security, Bash, Unicode, i18n, macOS.

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    1. Mathias Bynens‏Verified account @mathias 25 Oct 2016
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      Polyfills for experimental features are bad for the web: https://github.com/jonathantneal/document-promises/issues/4 … Use shims until the spec is final.

      3 replies 57 retweets 82 likes
    2. Andrea Giammarchi‏ @WebReflection 25 Oct 2016
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      bad wording, shims are usually polyfills incapable of fully reproduce the standard intent ;-) still I disagree as APIs consumer.

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    3. Mathias Bynens‏Verified account @mathias 25 Oct 2016
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      I’ve always used: polyfill = fakes standard API shim = mimics standard API as closely as possible without extending globals

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    4. Andrea Giammarchi‏ @WebReflection 25 Oct 2016
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      here, fixed for you :Ppic.twitter.com/3uUl7t4m2C

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    5. Andrea Giammarchi‏ @WebReflection 25 Oct 2016
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      you have ES5 shim/sham and ES6 shim/sham repositories to have a better idea of "shim" meaning VS sham ;-) you probably mean "sham"

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      Mathias Bynens‏Verified account @mathias 25 Oct 2016
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      My usage of those terms predates ES5. Anyway, I guess that’s why people call it “ponyfill” nowadays. https://xkcd.com/927/ 

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        2. Andrea Giammarchi‏ @WebReflection 25 Oct 2016
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          naaa, that's a bit too much. I am a polyfills author and that XKCD perfectly represents my vision about frameworks around standards

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        3. Andrea Giammarchi‏ @WebReflection 25 Oct 2016
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          which is the catch: either you support standards, and you make them available via polyfills, or you support ready-to-go 3rd parts.

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