Different angle, from @SocRECorg: this clip seems to show an officer retrieving a dropped gun. The exact chronology is unclear—was it dropped before shots were fired? Or much earlier? Full vid:https://www.facebook.com/socrec/videos/657655694735292/?t=126 …pic.twitter.com/zgQatDx6ax
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We reached this point because Hong Kong’s free system is incompatible with the PRC. One country two systems is impossible and unstable. It’s independence or slavery for Hong Kong. Or mass emigration.
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If only life were so deterministic.
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This is like saying the American Revolution was unavoidable because the British would invariably oppress the colonists. Yet so many choices shaped the outcome, which I can easily imagine unfolding in all sorts of different ways.
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The American founding fathers formulated and dared to put into practice the most complete and righteous free system of government in human history. Everything else was and is oppression in comparison to a greater (communist bloc) or lesser (Europe) extent.
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Yet they did so reluctantly, and rooted their revolt in their traditional rights as Englishmen. Even then, many forfeited their lives or property rather than go along. Had the British adopted a more thoughtful policy, much might have been different.
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Firstly,the PRC is nothing like the English. Even Deng Xiao Ping at his best was no William of Orange. So they’re different universes.The perfections of the American system are only possible to republican government besides.There could have been a just,not perfect British America
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The American Revolution was offered as an antidote to your linear and binary view of history, not as a perfect analogy for HK and China.
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I think there’s a clean line in the spectrum between George III and his parliament’s sporadic and somewhat ad hoc violations and a state with close to no due process, almost complete censorship, and no representation of any kind. One of them being flexible can’t translate at all.
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French police use water cannons on Day 1 of G7 Summit. Tear gas too. Day 1! It took HK police 12 weeks before they used water cannons. They have used more restraint than other police force. If anything too much restraint How we go here? Cheerleading by press
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Exactly, spured by tragedy-seeking press.
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It is not just about the ‘weapons’ used; it’s also about how they are being used. Example, tear gas, rubber bullets and batons should be aimed at lower bodies, but HK police are aiming them right in the protestors’ faces.
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True. It seems unbelievable that having won the withdrawal of the extradition bill, protests continue and become more violent. Once the mob is unleashed by its creators, it cannot be controlled or put back in the box. Well done Joshua Wong et al.
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One always asks “who benefits from this in the end game?”
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Exactly.
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It hasn't been withdrawn, though?
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At the note at the bottom "...House Committee agreed to rescind the decision...." Without a Bills Committee the bill cannot move forward and is dead. It's hard to believe that these protests are about Carrie Lam saying some "magic words" - which she can, of course, renege later
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You're right about that. The protests have now moved far beyond that issue.
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Yes one of them is you have not reported and PRSented the full story. But a biased picture of the events.
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this vid showed the whole scene from protesting and fighting cops to police firing a gunshot, what is not reported?
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