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    1. ɐɯıs uǝq‏ @bensima Aug 22

      Article by ⁦@DCoffeen⁩ - he explores personal identity via chaos. Detaching identity from family seems scary but is very liberating. Cc: ⁦@johndavidebert⁩ ⁦@jedwardcarp⁩ ⁦@MimeticValue⁩ Would love to hear your opinions on this. http://hilariousbookbinder.blogspot.com/2018/08/explaining-ourselves-beyond-family.html …

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    2. Mimetïc Value‏ @MimeticValue Aug 22
      Replying to @bensima @DCoffeen and

      @martyrmade is the real expert here. I read the article, and I mostly disagree. People don't fear whatever rationalizations he came up with. It's none of these issues. It's that the experience of fear arises and we rationalize all these reasons to interpret it.

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    3. Mimetïc Value‏ @MimeticValue Aug 22
      Replying to @MimeticValue @bensima and

      Blaming capitalist society doesn't solve the problem. The problem is that good times create weak men, who have a defeatist attitude towards the possibility of meaningful work. We are thrown into the world, and there's nobody to blame for what we make of it.

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    4. Daniel Coffeen‏ @DCoffeen Aug 22
      Replying to @MimeticValue @bensima and

      I didn't imagine blame as figuring in. Or capitalism per se -- only that one's mental well being is entwined with various forces other than family.

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    5. Mimetïc Value‏ @MimeticValue Aug 22
      Replying to @DCoffeen @bensima and

      Sure, there are countless forces that one might be exposed to. But they aren't all equal, in fact, some are magnitudes more significant, and this could be different between different people. But we don't have sufficient data to draw meaningful conclusions.

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    6. Daniel Coffeen‏ @DCoffeen Aug 22
      Replying to @MimeticValue @bensima and

      Absolutely. My argument, which is actually Guattari's argument which formed the basis of his clinical practice, is that when considering mental health, we need to consider the entanglement of forces rather than focus on the family.

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    7. Juggernaut Nihilism‏ @martyrmade Aug 22
      Replying to @DCoffeen @MimeticValue and

      Interesting how you begin from human hyper-connectedness and arrive at an atomized individualism so complete that a father cannot take any credit (or responsibility) for the outcomes of his son.

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    8. Mimetïc Value‏ @MimeticValue Aug 22
      Replying to @martyrmade @DCoffeen and

      The father not being the only influence does not mean that he isn't a significant influence. We don't even need D&G for this. It's common sense that people knew for thousands of years.

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    9. Juggernaut Nihilism‏ @martyrmade Aug 22
      Replying to @MimeticValue @DCoffeen and

      1/ The task of therapy isn't enlightenment, it's to prepare ppl to function well in their social world. Since most ppl spend most of their time around others of the same nation, broad social class, etc, it's unlikely that these are the source of any pathological discord.

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      Juggernaut Nihilism‏ @martyrmade Aug 22
      Replying to @martyrmade @MimeticValue and

      2/ In fact, peeling away the habits of thought and identity rooted in class, etc may maladjust an individual to his social environment and life tasks. The family is used by therapists to point out how one is different from one's peers, so that the differences can be 'repaired'.

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        1. Juggernaut Nihilism‏ @martyrmade Aug 22
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          3/ The idea is that once you see how your abusive father shaped you differently than others, you can drop the part of you shaped by that experience and begin behaving like a person w/a normal dad. One reason therapy fails is most ppl don't rly want to give up parts of themselves.

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